Volume 15 Number 10 Produced: Mon Aug 29 23:52:31 1994 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: Meru Foundation Presentation at AOJS [Stan Tenen] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stan Tenen <meru1@...> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 11:34:18 -0700 Subject: Meru Foundation Presentation at AOJS First I would like to thank Sam Juni for posting his report on the Meru presentation for AOJS last week. There are some details that need correction and I would like to add some comments and responses that might help to explain and frame what it is we think we are doing. The following comments are listed in approximately the order in which they appear in Sam Juni's message of 23 August 1994. My name is Stan Tenen. I don't know where the name "Steve" came from. We (Meru Foundation) are very open to competent and caring, Torah and science conscious persons investigating our work as they see fit. We are very much opposed to superficial and new-age treatments of our work when they are not Torah and science based. (Meru's work has been taken by a person who has been described to me as similar to David Koresh who has been presenting his own very sick anti-Torah new-age versions of it. This has cost us much support and credibility. Those who may have had contact with this bogus material will readily understand why we distinguish between competent and caring, Torah and science based work by others - which we actively seek - and the nutsy and anti-Torah new- age mishmash so fervently sold by the emotionally needy.) However, "our ideology" is not at all parallel with the Discovery program. First, we are a non-profit educational foundation and I am a Jew and a scientist. Neither I nor Meru Foundation has any "ideology" other than the personal commitment of many (not all) of our group to Torah Judaism. (Which, in my opinion, is not an ideology.) Secondly, unlike the Discovery program, Meru Foundation does not believe that it is a good idea to bring persons to Judaism by means of seemingly scientific demonstrations - even when they are scientifically justified. I tend to agree with the criticism on the Discovery program as spelled out by Prof. A. M. Hasofer, in the current issue (No.8) of B'Or HaTorah. (I highly recommend B'Or HaTorah.) Further, while I believe that the statistical work done by the Discovery program folks is first class and reliable, I do NOT believe that statistics, NO MATTER HOW ROBUST, can ever prove anything. There can ONLY be scientific proof when the mechanism that generates what the statistics measure is known. It is important to remember that the very same statistics used by the Discovery program to demonstrate that "only HaShem could have done it" are used by equally competent (and I would say, equally presumptuous) academic scholars (who do not believe in Torah) to demonstrate that human's MUST have done it. We should also note, AS PREDICTED BY TORAH SCHOLARS, that non-Jews are now using similar techniques to find the names of their spiritual leaders in Torah texts. Statistics without a model are not science and they can easily be abused. The Meru work is radically different from this. If anything, our models may help to explain the presence of the equal interval letter skip patterns that Discovery has found in a way that does honor to Torah and to science. (We believe that it is possible that what we have found is Torah true and scientifically meaningful.) Our work is NOT based on statistics, but rather, (hopefully) on our understanding of the fundamental processes that are responsible for the statistics and that provide some understanding of what HaShem via Torah may be trying to teach us. One great failing of statistics, from a Torah perspective, is our inability to Na'aseh before we can Nishma. (Note: "Na'aseh v'Nishma" means, roughly, "We will do and we will understand," and is most often said in reference to our original receiving of the Torah - we agreed to act according to G-d's will, *without conditions*, assuming we would understand later, in the doing, what there was for us to understand.) Statistics does not enable anyone to do anything to confirm the meaning of the statistics. How can we know (Nishma) when we have no access to do (Na'aseh)? The Meru findings provide the Na'aseh, which in Torah- competent hands, can lead to Torah-understanding (Nishma.) It is true that several persons, including myself, have come to Torah observance (at various levels and rates of approach) because of their association with this material. But their reasons for doing so are very different from each other, and different also from the reasons persons are drawn to Torah via the Discovery statistics. No general rule should be inferred from this. It is not my personal wish to use the Meru findings for this purpose, even if they are found to be valid and Torah- true by our sages. (I am not comfortable with proselytizing in any situation. Spiritual matters are just too important and too personal for me to want to influence another person's choices directly.) Neither Meru Foundation nor I myself have a track record or credentials on which to stand. We can only be evaluated by the integrity of what we do. Our credibility depends on our attempting to adhere to the highest standards in the Torah world and in the scientific world - simultaneously. This means that we must be very conservative in our relationships. (We will appear radical no matter how careful we are, so we must take extra pains to avoid even the appearance of religious or scientific bias.) So, I hope that Meru Foundation can work cooperatively with other groups, such as the Discovery folks, but I do not think it would be healthy or helpful for us to be too strongly identified with any other group. We are not the same, and our goals and needs are not the same either. We are the same in our allegiance to Torah and the Torah community. How we express that allegiance is, however, not the same. The alphabet is not exactly "first translated into ternary numeric base,...." That is only an accounting scheme. We did not determine the letter meanings until much later. However, the 3x3x3 matrix that the ternary letter count produces does turn out to be central to the assignment of universal meaning. The symmetries in the first verse of B'Reshit become clear when you count the letters in ternary (Base-3). The teaching that the Torah is organized so that the whole is in the first letter, the first word, the first pasuk (verse), the first paragraph, the first chapter, etc., is a Torah teaching. I did not make it up. Our experiments demonstrate that this teaching is very likely true. We have been able to demonstrate this explicitly for the first letter, the first word and the first verse and we have been able to demonstrate its plausibility (this is not a proof) for the first week of creation. We believe that the Discovery program's equal interval letter skip patterns MAY constitute a demonstration that the patterns we have found continue throughout Torah, and we have detected markers at various places throughout Torah where our predicted patterns seem to reappear. It is very very very very frustrating to be on to this and to not have the resources or knowledge base to proceed with the hard (and vital) experiments that might confirm what we seem to have found. We are most certainly open to COMPETENT help. HOWEVER, even given these limitations and the fact that the vast majority of this research is still ahead, we believe that we do now have sufficient data and a sufficiently robust and coherent (Torah and scientifically valid) model that, while it will certainly be refined and corrected, will also stand the test of time and the expected criticism. This is a work in progress; for it to come to a useful and Torah-true conclusion requires careful, caring, and comprehensive criticism from many disciplines. No one should take my word alone on this work (after all I am NOT a disinterested nor a credentialed person). Our findings to date justify the time and attention to get a full hearing and fair review; they do not justify immediate acceptance. The phrase in the second verse of Sefer Yetzirah (the "Book of Creation", one of the best-known Kabbalistic works) is: "Asar Sephirot Belimah." (Ten "sephirot" "out of nothing", in one common translation.) We will be pleased to send a copy of a draft paper on this (along with an introductory packet of information on the Meru Foundation to anyone who asks and sends us their surface mail address. The important form that we found that generates the Hebrew alphabet is NOT a mobius strip. It is also NOT a golden mean spiral as our plagiarist claims, and it is not any other previously known mathematical function. Instead it encompasses all of these concepts. I call it "Naked Recursion" and I claim it represents a natural constant of form representing a fundamental relationship in mathematics (and science and Torah.) "Naked", in a mathematical sense, means "unadorned" and "without any other quality or limitation." This alludes to (and, in its small way, attempts to model) the universal and unqualifiable quality of HaShem. "Naked" also alludes to the use of the word "Orios" (literally, "nakedness" or "incest") in the first line of Mishneh Ain Dorshin in Hagigah, and to Rabbi Akiva's horrible death. (His skin was combed off by the Romans.) "Recursion" includes all forms of self-embeddedness. B'Reshit 1.11: "Fruit tree yielding fruit whose seed is inside itself" (Also quoted in the introduction to the Sefer Zohar, another well-known Kabbalistic work.) The self-referential aspect of life and of human consciousness is also "recursive" in the mathematical sense. Life is life because it recurs - because it propagates. I am sad that Sam did not find this convincing. The discovery of a hand-shaped Tefillin strap that generates the letters of the alphabet is our principal finding. Personally, I am more convinced that this is true than I am about any other aspect of this work. The logic of using a model hand held in our hand, to generate the letters of an alphabet that we are taught connects chochma (wisdom) and binah (understanding), is, to me at least, overwhelming. Our hand IS the G-d-given embodiment of our ability to project our conscious will into the consensus world, and to bring an image of the world into our personal mind-space. Generation of the alphabet by this means naturally guarantees that the letters will be equally robust and useful in consciousness and in physics simultaneously. I strongly doubt that there is any better way to do this, and I have perfect confidence that HaShem always make the best choices. (However, it is ESSENTIAL to remember that even our own hand can be used in an idolatrous way. Therefore, at the highest levels, the image of our hand must also drop away, and only the feeling underlying the hand gesture can remain to lead to the experience in consciousness.) Another example of a best choice was our discovery that we could count the Hebrew letters in ternary. We did not know it at the time, but there is a simple and elegant mathematical proof that ternary is the single best (most elegant, universal and compact) number system for conveying information. How could it be otherwise? If Torah counts in ternary and if HaShem gave us Torah, could we believe that He used the second best means of doing so? (Note: This conforms to BOTH my Torah beliefs and my scientific standards - that is why it is acceptable in the Meru research.) The validity of the associations between form and meaning that we have made should be judged after persons have had the opportunity to read our written materials on this. The presentation at AOJS was too short to fill in all the details and to demonstrate the coherence of our approach as a whole. (We will send material on this to anyone who requests it.) The musical tape was not played at AOJS but it is available in a shorter version on the videotapes of many past lectures. Its purpose was to provide some degree of assurance that the patterns we found explicitly at the beginning of B'Reshit continued throughout the text. Listening to the sequence of tones does provide this for most listeners. We also learned some things about the structure of the text form listening to the tone sequences. Those interested should contact us for further information. There is no TAURUS in our system. We are working with the basic self- referential flow-form, as defined by the letter sequences at the beginning of B'Reshit, which is called a TORUS. We have done no work on the astronomical houses of which Taurus is one. Yes, as I like to point out, in one common mathematical form a Torus can look like a bagel. In nature, however, a torus is most like a "Fruit tree yielding fruit whose seed is inside itself." In nature, a torus, modeling a hypersphere, is in the form of an idealized apple-shaped fruit. Again, in my opinion, our work is radically different from the Discovery approach. I am sorry that Sam thought otherwise. Perhaps I should have been more clear about this. The principal reason why this work has not blossomed is that in the past we have been rebuffed by nearly everyone we have approached (though, of course, there are those who do appreciate its value). This is difficult work. Most Jews are offended by our use of mathematics and our discussion of other traditions (not to mention my long hair); most non- Jews are completely opaque to the idea that Judaism might have something to offer; most academics will not seriously consider any spiritual tradition as more than superstition and myth; most scientists think we are too mystical; and most wealthy individuals are not interested in teachings that do not validate the legitimacy of their wealth. Or, maybe I just have bad breath. The fact is, this is work in progress. It is not finished work, so I cannot make claims of what we will find when we are finished. (This situation, as any researcher knows, makes it hard to get funding, even for ordinary secular projects.) We have tried (dozens of times now) to find a "computer whiz" who could work on this. All who have tried have given up because they could not figure out what to ask the computer to do. But think for a minute. If these ideas *need* to be done on a computer, then they must be wrong. Great as the accomplishments of our sages of the past, and barring nutsy space-buddy theories of the origins of humankind and Torah (Sitchen, et. al.), our sages did not have computers. If computers are necessary to do this work, then the work is no more than a fantasy of mine, and is not part of Torah or Torah-true at all. Computers can be useful for modeling and they are certainly helpful to me in writing this response (given my terrible spelling, etc.), but computers cannot and will not ever know HaShem. (I believe that the belief in strong Artificial Intelligence is an idolatry.) It is up to us, using our G-d-given abilities and feelings, to do this work. As long as I resisted putting on Tefillin, and as long as I insisted on a purely analytic (meaning leave my feelings out of it) approach, all I could find was an abstract model - no more than an idol. Only when I was finally able to let down my ego-guard enough to take on (a small part of the yoke of) Torah myself, could I FEEL the letters on my arm and on my hand and on my soul and on my heart and on my mind. This is not a mechanical pursuit that can be accomplished by technology. No machine can Na'aseh for us to Nishma - we must do this for ourselves. The learning and the validation of these ideas is in our doing (in a Torah-true scientifically valid way.) Hot shot programmers really cannot help to settle the difficult questions with their computers. (They can help to simplify some of the mechanical tasks, however.) Our work is challenging and it is disturbing to some. We are saying that Torah includes a science of consciousness, and that this science requires doing before knowing. How many persons are willing to jump in before they are sure of something? It is hard enough to do this for the Torah we are sure of. Beyond all of the petty difficulties that stand in the way of any idea, there is the matter of scale. Simple ideas that do not have deep ramifications can be accepted quickly. They do not have much cultural inertia. Important ideas are more culturally massive - they have more inertia. It is necessary that we accept them slowly and with great care, expressly because they may have a deep and long influence on our lives. If the Meru work fits this second category, it must be slow in acceptance. If I heard of the Meru work from someone else, I would be very skeptical and I would certainly not believe it until I had done much thinking and reading. I do not expect anything else from others. With regard to endorsements and hechshers: While I met with Rabbi Steinsaltz on two occasions, on the second occasion we only spoke of personal matters and on the first occasion he merely referred me to Rabbi Ginsburgh and provided general encouragement. Neither I nor Meru Foundation have his endorsement. (If we could afford to travel to meet with him again, we would immediately do so.) This brings me to my second point. It is entirely inappropriate to base the credibility of scientific research on endorsements. I understand that in the Torah world the concept of "who holds by this" is a useful one, but for me personally it is demeaning and professionally, as a researcher, it is embarrassing. In this situation it may even be inconsistent with Halacha. The Mishneh Ain Dorshin makes it very clear that these ideas can only be discussed with persons who already know them for themselves. If a person needs an endorsement in order to evaluate this work then they are not qualified to do so. That may seem unfair, but, in this situation, I believe that we should consider that it may be justified. However, our work has been evaluated by a wide range of persons, including highly respected and knowledgeable Torah Jews, and we do provide copies of what they have had to say for those who feel a need for this reassurance. I am sympathetic when a Torah Jew asks me why he or she should skip a Talmud class to study the Meru work. I would not want vital Jewish learning to be displaced by clever mishegas (which is very prevalent these days.) Persons who would like to know "who holds by this" in the Torah world and/or in the academic/scientific world should ask us and we will provide it. Please, however, do not try to convince persons of the value of this work because someone else says it is valuable. That can be embarrassing to all concerned. Certainly, please do not post the names of respected persons openly on a public forum (such as this.) The misinformation about Rabbi Steinsaltz could be embarrassing to him and to us. (By the way, this misinformation is based on a misunderstanding and on the passage of time. No one had any intent to mislead here. But, these things happen. So, please be careful when using another person's name.) There are many issues not discussed here and there is much more to say. If the Meru work is what it seems to be - important to our understanding of Torah), we all have a responsibility. Check this out and decide for yourself if this is valid, worthwhile and something that you can help to nurture. If so, and if we are going to do work that meets the highest Torah and scientific standards, than we need your help. Our address and phone were posted correctly: Stan Tenen, MERU Foundation POB 1738 San Anselmo, CA 94979 415 459 0487 (24-hour voice answering machine or live person) 415 456 3281 (FAX connected 7 AM - Noon Pacific Time, M-F ONLY) Compuserve: 75015,364 Internet: <meru1@...> Yours truly, Stan Tenen, Director of Research, MERU Foundation ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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