Volume 18 Number 94 Produced: Wed Mar 22 9:11:48 1995 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 13 attributes squared [Steven Friedell] 19th century Jewish cookbook 18 #92 [Neil Parks] Beracha on seeing a King [Yitzchok Adlerstein] Kashrus [Rabbi Michoel Gourarie] Kohen - Marriage - Converts [Ari Belenkiy] Loopholes [J. Bailey] Parakeets & Pesach, [Philip Heilbrunn] Response to yasher ko'ach [Rita Jacobs] Shaking hands... [Ellen Golden] Shmitta Problem [Rivka Goldfinger] Speculation concerning Afterlife [Alan Zaitchik] Stripes on Tzitzis [Yechiel Pisem] Support vs Advocate [Moshe Goldberg] Women Fulfilling the Obligation of Megillah Reading for Men [Michael J Broyde] Writing on a Computer Screen [Eli Turkel] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Friedell <friedell@...> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 23:11:18 EST Subject: 13 attributes squared A friend pointed out to me that there are 169 letters in Exodus 34:5-7, the verses that contain, inter alia, the 13 Divine attributes. 169 is of course 13 squared. Has anyone seen a classical source that mentions this? May your reward be doubled (or squared)! -Steve Friedell ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Parks <nparks@...> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 01:19:50 EDT Subject: 19th century Jewish cookbook 18 #92 : Chana Luntz said: >...Etiquette books can be a >fun read - BTW did you know there was a jewish one? It was written >anonomously at the end of the nineteenth century, but they think it was >authored by the wife of Montifiore. It has some great bits such as >remembering to bring one's personal shochet when going to bag partridge). In case anyone is interested: "The Jewish Manual, or Practical Information in Jewish & Modern Cookery with a Collection of Valuable Recipes & Hints Relating to the Toilette", "Edited by a Lady", was first published in 1846. It was reprinted in 1983 by NightinGale Books of New York and Cold Spring, NY. ....This msg brought to you by: NEIL PARKS Beachwood, Ohio <nparks@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <yitzchok.adlerstein@...> (Yitzchok Adlerstein) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 22:09:24 -0800 Subject: Beracha on seeing a King King Hussein's visit next week to Los Angeles affords some Jews what may be an opportunity of a lifetime: making the beracha "shenasan michvodo levasar v'dam." There are some halachic complications. The Radbaz maintains that the beracha is recited only when seeing a monarch who holds power over the life of his subjects. (I have heard that in England, among people who are halachically savvy, no one makes the beracha for this reason when meeting the Queen, who is pretty much a figurehead.) However, Rav Ovadiah Yosef in Yechaveh Da'as (2:28) argues that the beracha is called for if the monarch can PARDON a death sentence, even if he cannot legally call for a summary execution. Does anyone out there have any familiarity with Jordanian law to be able to describe Hussein's legal powers? (And it does seem to be de jure powers - not de facto ones - that determine whether the beracha should be said or not.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <gurarym@...> (Rabbi Michoel Gourarie) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 19:57:46 +1000 Subject: Kashrus We are a class in Sydney learning in a Mesivta High school. We are currently doing a unit in Kashrus in conjunction with our Design and Technology course. We are looking into designing and creating ideas for promoting Kashrus in our community. We would be grateful if anyone had any ideas. Rabbi Michoel Gourarie 35 Woodstock st. Bondi Junction N.S.W. 2022 Australia Tel&Fax (612) 389 7002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <belenkiy@...> (Ari Belenkiy) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 21:56:27 PST Subject: Kohen - Marriage - Converts Gedalia Friedenberg asked on whether Kohen might marry somebody who was converted in childhood. Somewhere in Talmud (Sanhedrin ?) there is a discussion about this. R. Yehuda HaNassi permitted marriage of a Kohen by a lady who was converted at her three years. One of the examples where Rabbanim resolved problem from purely logical position. Ari ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J. Bailey <jbailey@...> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 23:41:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Loopholes I'm not a proponent of what have be called here "halachik loopholes", but I sort of need to utilize one soon. I'm a b'chor, and usually attend a siyum erev pesach to absolve myself of the fasting requirement (this is a hypocritical act, as it is the one I usually cite when referring to the ridiculous "outs" we have; if Hashem wanted us to fast, it takes some chutzpah for us to try to avoid the commemoration. But I digress...) Anyway, this year I have a 6:30 am flight Friday morning from NY to CA, and there is no way to find 10 men for a siyum. Are there any other ways to get out of fasting, perhaps something about fasting on a Friday? As long as I have somehow accepted the premise of these loopholes, I'm open to pretty much anything legitimate. Jay Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Heilbrunn <uri@...> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 15:54:15 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: Parakeets & Pesach, Try Panicum seed or sunflower seed. both are not chametz Philip Heilbrunn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <JACOBS21@...> (Rita Jacobs) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 08:23:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Response to yasher ko'ach When a person is called to the Torah for an aliyah, the Rabbi says to the person after the person so honored completes the blessings yasher ko'ach. What is the correct response to yasher ko'ach? It would seem that Todah wouldn't be enough but that one should return the good wishes as well. <Jacobs21@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <egolden@...> (Ellen Golden) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 95 00:41:56 EST Subject: Shaking hands... I am, as I have stated, the mother of a baal tschuvah, and not a particularly observant person, although I do keep Kosher for my son. A number of years ago, I arrived at work and noticed a Chassid sitting in the "waiting area" of my company. I, of course, went on to my office. Some time later, one of the (male) engineers in the company (I am a technical writer), came to my office and asked if I would give a demo of the publishing software we were developing to a prospective engineer. I said sure, and... the Chassid I had noticed in the lobby was ushered into my office. I turned my console so that he could sit in my "side chair" and view the console without having to be "too close" to me. (I don't need to say, but I will, that I don't look in the LEAST way like a "Chassidic woman"...) When the demo was concluded, and the engineer was conducting us out, the Chassid ACTUALLY offered me his hand. I shook it sort of tentatively, of course. He then said, "May I ask you a personal question?" I said yes, and he pointed to my son's graduation picture, on my desk. I realized he didn't quite know what to actually ask, so I answered him, "That is my son." He answered, "I know him." I smiled, and said, "I'm not surprised." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <RGOLDFINGER@...> (Rivka Goldfinger) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 09:12:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Shmitta Problem After Sukkos this year, I decided to make one of our esrogim into "esrog jelly." Somehow I made a mistake in the recipe, and we ended up with "esrog rock candy," which we have been unable to remove from the jar in any real amount. Since this jelly was made from a shmitta esrog, we can not throw it out or burn it or sell it or even give it away to a non-jew. The problem is that on one of our attempts to eat some of the jelly, a piece of bread became stuck in it. With Pesach coming up, we now have a real problem--Chometz that we cannot get rid of. The jelly has two pounds of sugar in it, so it is not likely that it will spoil anytime in the next century. Has anyone ever had a similar problem? We welcome any ideas of what to do. The rabbonim we have asked so far in Baltimore are at a loss. The best answer we have gotten so far is to try to melt it down and eat it, But I'm not sure that that is possible. Rivka Goldfinger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Zaitchik <ZAITCHIK%<INCDV1@...> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 21:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Speculation concerning Afterlife Neil Parks states: >I agree wholeheartedly with the last point. Our concern has to be how we >live in this world. That's one of the things that makes us different from >the non-Jews who spend much more time speculating on the nature of a life >after death than we do. Our limited imagination couldn't possibly do >justice to the world to come. I think that anyone familiar with the kabbalistic tradition of speculation about what happens after bodily death, would not be so quick to identify one or another position with "us" and "them", especially if he/she were also familiar with the various Christian traditions which also emphasize "shelo al mnat lkabel pras" (ROUGHLY: virtue for its own sake). /zaitchik ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <ypisem@...> (Yechiel Pisem) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:29:42 -0500 Subject: Stripes on Tzitzis See Hilchos (Laws of) Tzitzis in "Taamei HaMinhagim." He says that the stripes placed on the garment are a Zecher (remembrance) of the Techeles (blue string) that the Tzitzis used to have. The reason the stripes are usually black, he continues, not blue, is because the black color is a sign of Aveilus (mourning) over the Mitzvah we have lost the opportunity to perform. Kol Tuv, Yechiel Pisem <ypisem@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moshe Goldberg <mgold@...> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 08:07:26 +0200 (EET) Subject: Support vs Advocate >From: <burton@...> (Joshua W. Burton)-- Volume 18 Number 85 > We do not forbid Jews with drug problems to attend support groups with > other addicts, nor do we prohibit baalei t'shuva to get together with > other ex-Shabbat violators and discuss their doubts l'shem shamayim. The comparison is flawed. Support groups are for the purpose of helping the members stop their behavior, which is acknowledged to be wrong/harmful. Gay clubs tend to be activist groups explicitly (or implicitly) attempting to achieve legitimacy for their way of life. Moshe Goldberg -- <mgold@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael J Broyde <relmb@...> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 21:55:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Women Fulfilling the Obligation of Megillah Reading for Men One of the writers suggested that women cannot fulfill the obligation of megillah reading for men because: > First, men have the additional obligation of Talmud Torah K'Neged Kulam (The > learning of Torah [including Megillah] is equivalent to all other mitsvos). > Men are obligated to learn Megillah simply for the sake of learning Torah, > fulfilling an obligation that women don't have. I am unaware of any halachic source which advances that as a reason that would actually prevent a women from fulfilling the obligation for a man. Indeed, significant halachic consequences would flow from the assertion that any time there is a general obligation to do an act, and on top of the obligation, one also fulfills the obligation of talmud torah, that a woman cannot fulfill that obligation for a man. I am interested if a reader can provide a classical source to support that proposition? It seems to me that it is appropriate to reiterate the general halachic posture here. There is a dispute among the rishonim as to whether men and women are equally obligated in kre'at hamegilla. Since both Rama (and according to many opinions machaber, see premi megadim on OC 680) are strict on this matter, one should not be lienient, absent profound extenuating circumstances that cause this to be the only way one can fulfill the obligation. Best wishes, Michael Broyde ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eli Turkel <turkel@...> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 16:17:16 +0200 Subject: Writing on a Computer Screen Regarding erasing G-d's name on a computer screen it is far from clear the writing on a screen is halakhic writing. First of all it is not permament, and so would not be prohibited biblically on shabbat. Furthermore, what we see as letters is really a bunch of nearby pixels being lit up. In other laws filling in dots to create the appearance of a letter is not considered writing. This would apply equally well to printing on a dot-matrix printer. Finally, the letters on a monitor are being continually recreated by the beams. As such turning off the screen merely prevents the future writing of the word and is not erasing. <turkel@...> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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