Volume 27 Number 05 Produced: Thu Sep 25 10:46:13 1997 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: Bracha on brandy made from 100% wine [Joel Kurtz] Daf Yomi CDs [Frederic H Rosenblatt] Glass top stoves [Jack Hollander] History and Historiography [Saul Newman] Mourner's Kaddish on Shabbos and Yom Tov. [Immanuel Burton] Mussar and Maskillim - Huh? [Yosef Bechhofer] Our Parents Are Closer To Sinai? [Russell Hendel] Platonic Relationships [Marnin Goldberg] Remarrying Jewishly [Joseph Kaplan] Sermons [Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer] Tzitzis on Tisha B'Av [Akiva Miller] U'vah L'tzion on Tish'a B'av [Jonathan Katz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <jkurtz@...> (Joel Kurtz) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 12:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bracha on brandy made from 100% wine A friend of mine has received different opinions from authoritative sources on the correct bracha to be made over brandy made entirely from wine. He is (understandably) most anxious to resolve this problem. Could readers please advise whether they would make (a) shehakol or (b) borei pri hagafen, and why. Thankyou. Joel Kurtz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frederic H Rosenblatt <Frederic.H.Rosenblatt@...> Date: 11 Aug 1997 09:03:53 -0700 Subject: Daf Yomi CDs Does anyone know of a source for Daf Yomi on audio CD? I can get cassetes, but they're much more cumbersome to deal with over the whole cycle, and it occurred to me that a complete set of CDs would be much more manageable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Hollander <JackHollander@...> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:55:18 -0400 Subject: Glass top stoves Shmarya Richler writes:------ <<about Glass top stoves is there a problem with spillovers rendering the stove top milchig or fleishig?>> This has been a vexing question as chumras and technology appeared to advance together. Here I render the results of much discussion I have had with concerned friends without refering to any psak. 1. Stoves are basically treif. They usually can't be "Kashered " without causing major visual as well as material damage to the stove. The same holds for Ceramic as well as any other new technology devices such as magnetic induction stoves but not regular or Microwave ovens. Ceramic tops are glass which has added compounds to allow it to withstand heat and sudden changes in temperature. To some extent, the glass might be compared to Pyrex, but those who disagree have a valid arguement. How one views Ceramic tops or other tops does not change the fact that they are treif, and that food that comes into contact with a hot stove top has to be discarded. 2. I believe when we "Kasher" a stove top for pessach, what we are really doing is obliterating the possibility of any fragment of "chometz". This is not what I understand "Kashering" to be in its true sense. If we really could kasher a stove then we wouldn't have to go through all the trouble of covering the top with layers of foil. 3. There is a psychological problem here of putting preciously protected pots and pans which have 'Milk', 'Meat', and ' Pareve' designations onto a treif stove top. I have personnally observed instances where different sides of the stove were labelled for meat or milk. This practice didn't necessarily correspond to the level of observance of the cook. I have observed others place a removeable grid between the stove grid and the pot, using different grids for milk and meat pots, thereby not allowing the pot to actually touch the treif stove. I don't know if these practices have any halachic basis. I can't answer halachally about any of the above but practically, a ceramic top with a "platta" over it has the same halachic and safety problems as a regular stove and perhaps should be avoided for reasons of Pikuach Nefesh, especially since purpose made devices for Shabbat and Yom-Tov are readily available . I am very curious to know what really happens in halachally correct homes and eagerly await responses on this forum. Ketiva Ve chatima Tova, Jack Hollander, Jerusalem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Saul Newman <Saul.Z.Newman@...> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:08:29 -0700 Subject: Re: History and Historiography I thank Bob Kosvsky and Idelle Rudman for their thoughts on frum history and historiography. I concur that there is nothing to be gained by knowing demaining info about a gadol( though I would imagine some young talmid would be inspired to know that the Rosh Yeshiva used to throw a good fastball) I think I'm more concerned about the issues of deleting issues or facts that might then be used for halachic decisions.e.g. what actually happened in the last days of Volozhyn are relevant if one is then going to forbid bringing secular knowledge into the Yeshiva based on those facts. Also,if it's true that a sefer's new edition deleted issues about yom haatzmaut and halacha that appeared in the early edition, I would think that's not allowed without permission of the original author-if indeed that's true(i haven't seen either edition). It is said in the secular world that history is written by the winning side. Maybe we see the samething here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Immanuel Burton <iburton@...> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:35:00 +0100 Subject: Mourner's Kaddish on Shabbos and Yom Tov. As far as I understand, there are two reasons why a mourner says Kaddish during the period of mourning. Firstly, saying Kaddish (and leading the service) is a sign of mourning, and secondly the recital of Kaddish provides some sort of menuchah [rest] to the soul of the departed while it is Gehinom. Bearing these two reasons in mind, why does a mourner still say Kaddish on Shabbos and Yom Tov? If one accepts the first reason, then he should not say Kaddish as there are no public signs of mourning on Shabbos or on Yom Tov, as witnessed by the fact that he does not lead the service on those days. The second reason also does not apply on Shabbos or Yom Tov as souls are released from Gehinom for those days, and so no menuchah is required. Can anyone shed any light on this? Immanuel Burton - <iburton@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yosef Bechhofer <sbechhof@...> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 09:28:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Mussar and Maskillim - Huh? On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Mail Jewish included the following paragraph: > Alana has raised an important point. There is a need to acknowledge that > the opposition to the Conservative and Reform Movement is not because > they are hypocrites or nasty people. In fact, a major impetus for the > musar movement was because the maskilim (forerunners of Reform and > Conservative) often were very loveable, sincere people as are many > present day Reform and Conservative Jews. The Gra went so far as to > single out this factor (i.e., that they were good hearted) as to why the > maskilim were so dangerous. I have read extensively (and written) on the Mussar movement - and would love to see it resuscitated. To the best of my knowledge, its founding had nothing to do with the fight against Haskala (although, indeed, Reb Yisroel Salanter zt"l was often a darling of the Maskillim) but was inner generated, to prompt intensive Avoda on character development alongside Torah greatness. Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer c/o Shani Bechhofer <sbechhof@...> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/6147 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <rhendel@...> (Russell Hendel) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 20:02:37 -0400 Subject: Our Parents Are Closer To Sinai? Chana Luntz writes >>..I think we have lost something quite precious. >>Because part of what it once meant to be a Jew was that one accepted the yoke of Torah as transmitted by one's parents AND IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WERE CLOSER TO SINAI THAN WE WERE>>> This is not the first time I have heard this but I know of no legitimate primary source that supports this. To take a simple example a well known Midrash on Deut 29:9---"You are ALL standing before G-d.."--says that all Jews were at Sinai (including us '20 centuriites'). I have always believed that the correct approach to halacha is to seek out its distinctions and details. It is easy for anyone to look up the laws of honoring ones parents: Yes there is much we must do * Feed them * By clothing for them * Stand before them * speak respectfully to them * endure their insults on us if they so chose * Acknowledge their spiritual and physical debt to us But someone please tell me where it says that we must be the same as them? Or that they were closer to Sinai? According to the Rambam for example there is no controversy in Traditions handed down...it doesn't matter if I heard something from my father grandfather or Moses himself. And all Father-Son pairs differed in the Bible--Abraham was known for his charity, Isaac for his sacrifice, Yaakov for his having to outsmart his environment and father in law who continually double crossed him. It is well known that Korach's children were totally different that their father. The only father-son pairs that were similar were possibly people like David and Solomon--but that is because they were of Royal blood (and it is the nature of establishment people to externally be the same). At any rate I believe that halachah simply requires us to respect our parents. Every son is suppose to be different that his father and only follows him possibly in monetary/vocational matters (inheritance etc.). In fact there are several places in civil law where people have the right to refuse waivers in matters of property division since giving the gift creates a sense of indebtedness. Isn't this in effect saying that people have a RIGHT to their autonomy? Doesn't this then apply to our relations with our parents? I believe some clarification of this touchy issue in a rational manner would be welcome Russell Jay Hendel; Ph.d;ASA; Rhendel @ mcs drexel edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marnin Goldberg <special@...> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Platonic Relationships After Rabbi Orlofsky's shiur (given in english) at Sharfmans in February of 96 he did discus the issue of platonic relationships with the guys in Or Dovid who taped it originally. Being in Or Dovid at the time, I do not remember any of the guys taping this shiur. What are your impressions about the tape? FYI - Other tapes of Rabbi Orlofsky are avaiable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Kaplan <penkap@...> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Remarrying Jewishly Susan Chambre asks about attitudes towards remarrying Jewishly without having received a secular divorce. There was a recent divorce case in New York, where the wife tried to get the court to prohibit a bet din to give her husband a heter me'ah rabbanim. She said that this would enable him to remarry Jewishly without a secular divorce which would hurt her legal position. The judge refused to enjoin the bet din because of First Amendment concerns, but added that if the man remarries Jewishly he would be committing the crime of bigamy and any rabbi who concecrated such a marriage would be aiding and abetting such criminal activity. This hasn't been tested yet in higher courts, but the language of the judge (who I think may be frum) was pretty strong. Joseph C. Kaplan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer <sbechhof@...> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:07:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sermons In "Idle Thoughts are the Devil's Playmate", Rabbi David Riceman asks why Shabbos morning sermons are not to be considered Darkei Ha'Emori. I believe the Tzitiz Eliezer has a teshuva in which he discusses the permissibility of sermons between Hachnosas Sefer Torah and Chatzi Kaddish before Mussaf based on the assumption that such is improper as it makes the sermon part of the service, unacceptable on similar, although not precisely the same grounds, as Rabbi Riceman implies (although, from memory, I believe in the end he does permit said practice. When I was very young, the Rabbi in the Young Israel of West Hempstead, where I grew up, was Rabbi Harold Kanotopsky z"l, a close talmid of Rav Soloveitchik z"l, and I distinctly remember that his derashos were after Mussaf before Ein Ke'Elokeinu (although, as I was in fourth grade when he left, i may be wrong!) - perhaps his reason for doin so was in this vein, so as not to be considered incorporating a "homily" in the services. Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Akiva Miller <kgmiller@...> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:29:06 -0500 Subject: Tzitzis on Tisha B'Av In the directions for the morning service on Tisha B'Av, the Artscroll "Kinos" says *not* to kiss the tzitzis, neither at Baruch Se'amar, nor during the Sh'ma. Anyone have any idea why this should be so? (And while we're on the subject, why is it that on other days we *do* kiss the tzitzis at Baruch She'amar?) Akiva Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Katz <frisch1@...> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:41:20 EDT Subject: U'vah L'tzion on Tish'a B'av A question struck me last night during ma'ariv of Tish'a B'av: if we are not supposed to study Torah on this day (except for eicah and halachos related to the fast), how can we recite the prayer "u'vah l'tzion", which is mainly a compilation of various Torah verses? In fact, I remember learning that the purpose of this prayer is so that there will be a minyan learning Torah so that the kaddish afterwards may be recited. This strengthens the question even further. On this note, on what level is the prohibition of learning Torah on Tish'a B'av? Perhaps it is merely a recommendation? (It is hard for me to imagine that one is strictly forbidden from learning Torah on any day!) Jonathan Katz <frisch1@...> 410 Memorial Drive - Room 233F Cambridge, MA 02139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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