Volume 27 Number 27 Produced: Sun Nov 30 8:18:33 1997 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: A few non-earthshaking questions [Ben Rothke] Basic Jewish case for vegetarianism [Rick Turkel] Burial on Yom Tov [Menashe Elyashiv] Getting into your hotel room on shabbat (Trim second message) [I. Harvey Poch] Israeli Chief Rabbinate on transplants [Yehuda and Rebecca Poch] Jewish McCaugheys? [Sam Saal] Lying for shidduchim [Yrachmiel Tilles] Purposes and Goals of Kiruv [Anonymous] Yesh L'gour Bo [Joe Schoemann] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Rothke <BRothke@...> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 22:32:13 -0500 Subject: A few non-earthshaking questions A few non-earthshaking question have come to mind. They are: 1. Why do we refer to the Ari z"l with the suffix z"l (his memory should be for a blessing) and no one else? 2. Why is the suffix hakodesh (the Holy one) used for the Shel"a & Orh HaChaim & no other meforshim? 3. Given that the Hebrew word for egg - beitzah, is the equivalent term for testicle, some people use the loshon naki (clean language) word baya, which is Aramaic for egg. Is there any basis for such use? Also, why only betizah, as opposed to the other words for parts of the private anatomy? 4. Finally, is it not extremely bizarre that the same word for excrement (gedolim) is the same word used vernacularly for Torah leaders? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <rturkel@...> (Rick Turkel) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:43:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Basic Jewish case for vegetarianism Richard Schwartz <SCHWARTZ@...> posted in m.j 27#26 a not unreasonable basis for observant Jews being vegerarians. Aside from the fact that we are commanded to partake of meat on shabbat and yom tov because "ein simxa 'ela bevasar veyayin" (there is no joy without meat and wine), I'd like to make the point that there is a third option other than meat twice a day every day and complete vegetarianism, namely, a diet consisting of meat/poultry on shabbat and yom tov and little or none the rest of the week. Beyond the health benefits, such a policy reduces the demand for meat in the world, thus freeing up grain for human consumption. My family exists quite nicely on such a diet, with rarely more than one meat meal between shabbatot and no feelings of deprivation. The latter, of course, is subjective, but one accommodates to it pretty quickly if enough variety in maintained in such a semi- vegetarian diet. In addition, careful planning assures adequate protein in the diet; for those with higher protein needs (e.g., bodybuilders and others who get above-average amounts of exercise), protein supplements based on soy and whey are readily available. Just my NIS 0.07-worth. Shabbat shalom. Rick Turkel (___ _____ _ _ _ _ __ _ ___ _ _ _ ___ <rturkel@...>)oh.us| | \ ) |/ \ | | | \__) | <rturkel@...> / | _| __)/ | ___) | ___|_ | _( \ | Rich or poor, it's good to have money. Ko rano rani | u jamu pada. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Menashe Elyashiv <elyashm@...> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:27:33 +0200 (WET) Subject: Burial on Yom Tov Even though burial is allowed on the 1st day by non jews, it is not done in Israel. Burial is done on the 2nd day of Rosh Hashana mainly in Jerusalem , Petah Tikva etc. but only for religious families. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I. Harvey Poch <af945@...> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Getting into your hotel room on shabbat (Trim second message) I am certainly not a posek, but I have heard (from Rabbi Steven Pruzansky of Teaneck NJ as part of a shiur in which he quoted MANY sources) that in order to fall into the category of "aish" the 'light' has to produce both light and heat. He mentioned that the LED's in this type of equipment (he was referring to alarm systems, not hotel room doors) do NOT produce any heat. Therefore, if the light turning on or off is an unintended by-product of the activity (like opening the aron kodesh and turning the alarm LED on or off), the activity itself is still permitted lechatchilah. Personally, in view of this, I would be more concerned about electronic operation of the lock itself. I'm not convinved that the release is mechanical. > Subject: Re: Ksuvim I believe there is a set at - of all places - Holy Blossom Temple in Toronto. Nevi'im are certainly there, but I seem to remember a Daniel. I don't get there very often, but I will try to check. Holy Blossom is the oldest congregation in Toronto, but has been Reform for at least a hundred years. The seforim in question are wrapped in relatively new mantlech, and stand in a glass display case in the main hall. What else are they going to do with them?? Why would the writer's father not use EICHAH. In our shul (B'nai Torah of Toronto) when we read megillos other than Esther on klaf (which we do sometimes, but not always) we do NOT say shehecheyanu. Eichah would be no different. As the ba'al koreh for Eichah, I say the brocho 'Al Mikro Megillo' quietly before I start, and would do so from a klaf as well. He also says no one would write an Eichah. This is not so. I saw one included in a single scroll of four megillos (excluding Esther) in the shul where I grew up. This shul no longer exists and the seforim were dispersed many years ago. P.S. Just in case you noticed a similarity of names, I am Yehuda's father. I. Harvey Poch (:-)> <af945@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yehuda and Rebecca Poch <butrfly@...> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:42:19 -0500 Subject: Israeli Chief Rabbinate on transplants The Chief Rabbinate has ruled that donating bodily organs is a major mitzvah, subject to the condition that the time of death be determined properly. Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yisrael Lau said Wednesday that in 99 percent of the cases in which the rabbinate is asked to permit organ donation, it does so. The chief rabbi added that if the Ministry of Health would publish a list of doctors specializing in halachic medicine who could dependably determine the time of death, the rabbinate would call on the public to donate organs. There is no dispute among poskim - rabbis qualified to rule on halacha - as to the permissibility of donating kidneys, and under certain conditions some also permit heart donations. But the Chief Rabbinate has not previously called on the religious public to donate organs, and the conventional wisdom among the wider public is that organ donations are forbidden. During the tenure of Tzachi Hanegbi, now minister of justice, as health minister, negotiations commenced between the rabbinate and the Health Ministry on the subject, but the talks were discontinued. Lau believes that due to the employment disputes now preoccupying the Health Ministry, there is little chance that the talks will be resumed. {HAARETZ 11/27 C} \ || / Yehuda and Rebecca Poch \___||___/ Rehovot, Israel \___||___/ / || \ <butrfly@...> / || \ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Saal <saal@...> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:05:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jewish McCaugheys? This week, the McCaugheys had septuplets. Thank G-d, all 7 kids are doing well, although all were born in the 2-3 lb range, significantly low birthweights, but not so low that HaShem and modern technology can't give them all a good shot at life. The McCaugheys had taken fertility drugs which increased the chances of multipbe births. When the doctors recognized how many fetuses were in the womb, they recommended aborting some to increase the chances of survival for the remainder. The McCaugheys refused, and, thank G-d, everything worked out well. What would (should) a Jewish couple have done when faced with the question of aborting a few of the fetuses? Of course, the couple must work with their Rav, but if standard operating (pardon the pun) procedure is to abort a few of the fetuses to improve the chances of the remaining ones' (and the mother's) survival, do we go ahead with it? Are these fetuses rodephim? If so, which ones? Sam Saal <saal@...> Vayiphtach HaShem et Pea haAtone (<saal@...> also works) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yrachmiel Tilles <seminars@...> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:39:59 +0200 Subject: RE: Lying for shidduchim In a No. 19 post, Aaron Gross said, >I think that fudging with age,... and the like are relatively minor, >superficial characteristics that qualified shadchanim should have leeway >with, especially as these are easily discovered on initial meetings. Please be careful. When you are involved with shidduchim for the 30+ set, lying about age becomes a *very major* factor, and much too often has painful consequences. I have witnessed both immediate breaking-off just before the chupah and immediate divorce just after because of age-related reproductive concerns combined with the "trauma" of uncovering the lie. So please move this one over to the "stick of dynamite" side of your simile. Yrachmiel Tilles Ascent of Safed NEW E-MAIL: <editor@...> NEW EXCITING WEBSITE: http//www.ascent.org.il ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anonymous Date: Sun, 23 Nov 97 13:31:16 UT Subject: Purposes and Goals of Kiruv What are the purposes and goals of Kiruv (outreach)? I'm Financial VP of my shule, and this week I received a check for $1000 from someone I didn't know -- Russian sounding names and from out of town. I did a little digging with folks who've been around the shule and found out our benefactors were a couple who came as immigrants. During the miracle of Russian emigration each Shule in town was given a family to "sponsor." It seems most of the frum shules provided some level of support and succor but when it was obvious (?) to them that these folks wouldn't be "true B'aalay T'shuvah", the relationships waned. It seems that some of the good folks at our shule held on tenaciously and built a relationship with "our family" -- letting them grow as much as was comfortable for them. While in town, they attended shule each Shabbos, were involved in Shule activities, etc., but there were some "buts." This family which has long since moved out of town, maintains Jewish roots, etc., They are not, I am told, participating members of an Orthodox Minyan. Is this success, or is this failure? Were the shules that quickly abandoned their families smarter than us, because they didn't waste their time, or was our effort worthwhile? My wife (a certified Tzedaikis -- putting up with me is probably more than enough for full certification) was Mekariv four women about a dozen years ago. They were college students at Bryn Mawr, a prestigious and rather non-Jewish place. These women had weak, if any ties to Yiddishkite. Today, B"H, all four are married two Jews -- two wear Shietel's and are "black hatters" so to speak, two (along with their husbands) are active members of Conservative Congregations, keep kosher -- but are not, quite frankly, Shomre Shabbos. My wife maintains a mother-daughter relationship with these women -- all four of them, and we are blessed with 8 ayniklach. Is this success, or is this failure? If we meet someone who we can lift up (only) a few steps, but most likely not more, what should we do? I know this gets into larger issues of our relationship with non-Orthodox Jews, but let's focus on the question at hand. What are the purposes and Goals of Kiruv (Outreach) When should we start / stop, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <joeschoe@...> (Joe Schoemann) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:42:35 +0200 Subject: Yesh L'gour Bo The Oruch Hashulchon in halochos of krias hatorah [Laws of Reading the Torah - Mod.] (Orach Chayim 142) mentions that correcting the baal koreh is only done in public if he makes a significant error, one that changes the meaning of the reading. He then says for less severe errors "Goarim Bo" which seems to mean that he goarim bo is done not in public but privately. In the same chapter he says that the ball koreh should prepare well enough to avoid any kind of error, both in reading and tunes. I would assume that the same applies to other cases where the Mishne b'ruro uses the phrase and care must be taken not to publicly shame anyone. Joe Schoemann Bet Shemesh | JOE SCHOEMANN e-mail: <joeschoe@...> | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
End of Volume 27 Issue 27