Volume 34 Number 21 Produced: Fri Feb 2 6:14:48 US/Eastern 2001 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: Smoking in Halacha (5) [Andrew Klafter, Yisrael & Batya Medad, Josh Backon, Leona Kroll, Rachel Swirsky] Women and Gemara (2) [Gilad J. Gevaryahu, Mike Gerver] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Klafter <andrew.klafter@...> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:56:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Smoking in Halacha > From: Dani Wassner <dani@...> > Does anyone know of any good articles (in Hebrew or English) that > summarise all of the main rabbanim and their objections to smoking? > (Particularly Israeli sources). Any help would be appreciated. Yes. There is a periodical called "B'Or HaTorah" published simultaneously in English and Hebrew Editions. In the early 1990's there was a she'elah (request for halakhic guidance) written to Rabbi Eliezer Waldenberg, who is one of today's most prominent Jewish Legal authorities in the world, and certainly the single most published halakhic authority on issues of Jewish medical ethics. The question was written by an Orthodox pulmonologist accompnied by up to date information about the health hazards of smoking. Rabbi Waldenberg's response, also published in this article, summarizes the halakhic issues and stances by previous rabbanim, and deals as well with the issue of "second hand smoke". Another article, which may be more up your alley, is actually a book chapter in the book, "Jewish Values and Modern Medicine" by Dr. Fred Rosner, english, published by KTAV. He has an entire chapter devoted to smoking. There is a more recent update of this book since I purchased mine, and perhaps his update includes the above mentioned, well publicized teshuva by Rabby Waldenberg. Asya (a hebrew periodical) and Journal of Halacha and Contemporary Society (an english periodical) have treated this subject on many occasions, but I don't know the volumes, offhand. Finally, http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/smoking.html has a brief piece by Rabbi Chaim Steinmetz. That website, btw, is a great resource for scholarly english articles on various issues in jewish law. -Nachum Klafter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yisrael & Batya Medad <ybmedad@...> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:41:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Smoking in Halacha Well, this is "any help". In 1963 or 1964, the Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshivat Chofetz Chaim in Queens issued a specific p'sak for the Beis Medrash boys (another colloquial term) ordering them to quit smoking as a result, I recall, of the Surgeon-General's report. There may have been a written record of it and there may have been some discussions in Halachic journals at the time. Yisrael Medad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josh Backon <BACKON@...> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:43 +0200 Subject: Re: Smoking in Halacha Halachic sources on smoking include: Iggrot Moshe YD II 49: can't prohibit m'din Torah but a Ben Torah shouldn't take up smoking. In another place, the Iggrot Moshe Choshen Mishpat II 18 categorically prohibits smoking in a Beit Midrash if the cigarette smoke bothers anyone. Rav Valdenberg (Tzitz Eliezer) as quoted in the Nishmat Avraham Orach Chaim 511 # 1 categorically prohibits smoking al pi din Torah. See also the articles in ASSIA 5744;37:83 and 5744;37:21 for the articles by Rav Nebentzal and Rav Halperin. See also: Chafetz Chaim in Likutei Amarim 13 who castigates those who take up smoking, and the Birkei Yosef in Machazik Bracha Orach Chaim 210 s"k 13 (as quoted in the Nishmat Avraham). I would suggest another reason to prohibit (at least an issur d'rabbanan) based on Even ha'Ezer 5:12 (see Beit Shmuel) and 5:13 where even a temporary reduction in ferility (e.g. by placing somone in ice water) is assur. Recent research (British J Obstetrics and Gynecology 2000;107:55-61) has shown immediate detrimental effects on male fertility after smoking a cigarette. This is in tune with prior studies (Fertility and Sterility 1993;59:645; Fertility and Sterility 1996;65:835-42; J Assisted Reproduction and Genetics 1995;12:217) which showed that within 10 minutes of smoking, cotinine, the nicotine metabolite, induced decreases in sperm motility, morphology, viability and count. Dr. Josh Backon Faculty of Medicine Hebrew University of Jerusalem <backon@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Leona Kroll <leona_kroll@...> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:27:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Smoking in Halacha There is a book about this! It was published two years ago and I've seen it here in Israel. It is in English and its about 100 pages long. Sorry- I don't remember the title, author, or publisher. I saw an article on the subject about three years ago in either Yated or The Jewish Press- this article mostly discussed second hand smoke and the laws of damages. You should try contacting the rosh yeshivah at Yeshivat Hakotel, the hesder yeshiva in the Jewish Quarter, because he is known to be very anti-smoking and is probably familiar with the sources. When the dangers of smoking became known, both Rav Feinstein and the Lubavitcher Rebbe issued statements that whoever smokes should try, if possible, to quit and whoever doesn't smoke shouldn't start. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rachel Swirsky <yu211366@...> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:46:04 -0800 Subject: Smoking in Halacha Please find below a short paper I wrote on the topic in my first year of university In the year 2000 more and more people of all ages and backgrounds are lighting up. Many observant Jews believe that there is no halachic basis that forbids smoking cigarettes. This is not the case. Although it is not clear from looking at the earliest biblical sources smoking is forbidden according to Jewish Law. The earliest sources are unclear. There is no question that human life is considered to be a precious commodity that is to be looked after. Our halachic journey begins the earliest source for Jewish law. The Torah tells us that we should "guard your [our] life carefully," (Devarim 4:9) and that we should "be careful with our lives." (Devarim 4:16) The Torah is also concerned that a person "should not bring blood upon your house" (Devarim 22:8) by being careless and allowing someone else to die on their property. None of these texts from the Torah itself elaborate on how one is to guard his or her life carefully. There is no reason from any of these texts to assume that this applies to the practice of smoking. The Mishna below bases an idea on the biblical texts above that one must passively avoid doing things that might harm oneself. "Three liquids may not be imbibed if they have been left uncovered [peradventure a poisonous insect or reptile drank from them and poisoned them]: water, wine, and milk." (Mishna, Terumot 8:4) The gemarah continues this though and connects it directly to the biblical texts. "From whence do we know that a man should not keep a vicious dog in his home, or keep an insecure ladder in his home? Because it is said, 'Thou shall not bring blood upon your house.'" The Rambam elaborates further on the biblical sources adding that there is an active component to guarding ones body. Similarly, regarding any obstacle which is dangerous to life, there is a positive commandment to remove and beware of it, and to particularly careful in this matter, for scripture says, "Take heed unto thyself, and guard thy soul diligently" if one does not remove dangerous obstacles and allows them to remain, he disregards a positive commandment and transgresses the prohibition "bring no blood upon thy house" many things are forbidden by the sages because they are dangerous to life. If one disregards any of these and says "if I want to put myself in danger, what concern is it to others," or "I am not particular about such things," disciplinary flogging is inflicted upon him. (Maimonides Mishna Torah, Hilchot Rotzeach) According to the Rambam's opinion in his legal code, the biblical requirement to protect oneself is interpreted that one should avoid actively a situation that is dangerous. He says that one who does not do so is transgressing a positive commandment and that he or she should be punished accordingly. Neither is one allowed to relinquish the responsibility Rabbi Yosef Caro continues to expand on earlier ideas. He adds that requirement that until this point has only been seen passively. One needs to careful for things that are not likely. Although the tasks mentioned in the Shulchan Aruch are not active, thought and care does need to be put into not doing any one of them. One should take care never to put money in ones mouth, lest it be covered with dried spittle of a dead person; one should not place ones palm under ones arm, lest one had touched a leper or a dangerous drug. one should not leave a knife inserted into an etrog or vegetable, lest a man unknowingly fall on its point and be killed. (Shulchan Aruch, Yoreh Deah 116:5) Rabbi Moshe Isserles (the Ramah) clarifies many of the issues in his commentary on the Shulchan Aruch. It is at this point in halachic journey that one can start to see the application to forbiddances of smoking. One should avoid all things that might lead to danger, because a danger to life is more serious than a prohibition, and one should be more concerned about a possible danger to life than a possible prohibition. Therefore the sages prohibited one to walk in a place of danger, such as near a leaning wall [for fear of collapse] or alone at night [for fear of being attacked]. They also prohibited drinking water from a river at night, or placing ones mouth on a flowing pipe of water to drink. For these things may lead to danger. they also said that one should flee from a city where there is a plague at the outset of the outbreak. All these things are intended to avoid danger, and one who is concerned with his health will avoid them. And it is prohibited to rely on some saving miracle, or to endanger oneself in any similar fashion. (Rema on Shulchan Aruch, Yoreh Deah 116:5) What if one closes ones ears to the information that is filling the media that smoking is hazardous to ones health? One idea that is seen in many places throughout rabbinic literature is that God preserves the simple. Why is bloodletting permitted on Fridays, if on Fridays the planet mars predominated at even hours of the day [hence rendering those hours unusually dangerous]? The answer is that since the multitude are accustomed to doing this at that time, it may be considered permissible, since, "The Lord preserves the simple." (Shabbat 129B) In the quote above a question regarding what is though to be a medical procedure is asked. Is this the same as asking about something where there is no issue of looking after the body and may, in fact harm it? Does this allow leading Torah authorities in the world to say that ignorance is an excuse? The following is taken from the writings of Rabbi Moshe Feinstein during the mid-20th century (1964). At this point the information about dangers of smoking have begun to be made public. There was still a great deal of doubt as to the long-term effects of smoking cigarettes. One should certainly take care not to start smoking, and to take proper care in desisting. But should one conclude that it is forbidden as an activity dangerous to ones health? The answer is that because the multitude are accustomed to smoking, and the gemarah in such a case invokes the principal that "the lord preserves the simple" and in particular since some of the greatest torah scholars in the present or previous generations do or did smoke [there is no prohibition] consequently even someone who does take the stringent view and does not smoke out of concern for the health danger may properly offer a smoker a match and not be concerned about the prohibition against facilitating a transgression. The following is taken from a comparatively recent piece written by Rabbi Abraham Twerski M.D. The piece takes into account the new and relevant information that has become known about the hazards of smoking cigarettes. The rabbi in question is also a physicians and bases his opinion not only on past halachic rulings and responsa but also on medical knowledge if the present. He also discredits the claim made above that God protects the fools by saying that, when it comes to smoking, the category of a fool no longer exists. I cannot understand, I really cannot, how people who claim to be observant of Torah. can allow themselves to smoke cigarettes when it has been established beyond a shadow of a doubt that cigarettes are poisonous and have many destructive effects on the body. . Halacha states clearly and emphatically that your body is not your own to do with as you please. It is absolutely forbidden to inflict any injury on your body. With the overwhelming evidence on the danger of smoking now available, we can no longer invoke such statements such as "God protects the fools." A group of rabbannim including the current Gerer Rebbe has recently come out with a ruling in Israel that it is absolutely forbidden for a person to pick up their first cigarette. If one is already a smoker then one should do everything in ones power to quit. This relates to the biblical phrase that one should guard ones life carefully. One is never allowed to smoke in public due to the danger of second hand smoke. This applies even if the other people around are smokers as well. This hearkens back to not bringing blood upon ones house. One should not give another person lung cancer because of a habit they refuse to work on. Under no circumstances may one smoke in front of children. Thus our halachic journey comes to an end. After a brief tour through the sources pertaining to the topic at hand it should be clear that smoking is not permitted within the realm of halacha. Although the subject no longer seems open to debate halacha is a constantly evolving legal code and new information may once again open the debate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gilad J. Gevaryahu <Gevaryahu@...> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:13:18 EST Subject: Women and Gemara I.H Fox asks (v34n16) <<The current prohibition is based on a teshuva by Rabbi Moshe Feinstein "Igrot Moshe," but other prominent rabbis disagree.>> <Can you state what tesuva I belive that his position was more complex> Three of R. Moshe Feinstein teshuvot printed in "Igrot Moshe" deal with limud Torah by women. In one he states that a father has a halachic obligation to teach his sons, but not his daughters, although, he states that since today the law of the land is mandatory education for girls as well, and according to the rule of "dina demalchuta dina" one is obligated to educate his daughters as well. Yoreh Deah, vol. 2, siman 113, page 186. In the second one, where women participated in a social gathering and the question was: Are they allowed to stay for the part where dinim, divrei Torah and Shulchan Aruch were taught. R. Moshe Feinstein ruled that it is good for women to listen to divrei Torah, dinim and mussar. Yoreh Deah, vol. 2, siman 109, page 180. In the third answer that pertain to the issue of teaching Talmud and Mishnah to the girls he said that it is prohibited to teach in school Mishnah (except for pirkei avot) because if you teach them "ke'ilu limdum tiflut" (=as if you taught them vanity). This indicates clearly that Talmud is certainly prohibited on a kal-vachomer. Yoreh Deah, vol. 3, siman 87, page 329. Gilad J. Gevaryahu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Gerver <Mike.Gerver@...> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:30:22 +0100 Subject: Women and Gemara Janet Rosenbaum says, in v34n19, > I'm not sure who were the main proponents in > Israel, but it seems like gemara is nearly universal in the dati leumi > (national religious) schools for women. I assume you are talking about post-high school learning programs. It is not at all true on the high school level, at least in my experience. We visited several dati leumi high schools last year, when we were looking for a school for our daughter, who is now in 9th grade. I don't think a single one of them taught gemara. I remember that one of them had an after-school gemara chug for the girls who were interested, but we decided against that school for other reasons. And we did hear about one girls' school in Jerusalem that taught gemara, but unfortunately my place of work is too far from Jerusalem to commute, and our daughter does not want to board with another family. But after learning gemara at the modern orthodox school she went to in the States in 7th and 8th grade, she finds it extremely frustrating that it is not taught at her school in Israel. And even worse, that none of her classmates (who grew up in Israel) seem to care! If anyone knows of, or would like to start, a girls' gemara chug in or near Raanana, please let me know. Mike Gerver Raanana, Israel ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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