Volume 51 Number 61 Produced: Wed Mar 15 20:48:42 EST 2006 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: Counting Mechalel Shabbos for Minyan/Kitzur not Halacha [Chana Luntz] Rabbi Reuven Agushewitz [Mark Steiner] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chana Luntz <Chana@...> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:13:56 +0000 Subject: Counting Mechalel Shabbos for Minyan/Kitzur not Halacha Quoting Avi Feldblum <mljewish@...>: Ira L. Jacobson <laser@...> writes: > and Michael brings a number of sources that do not hold by the > aforementioned Kitzur's position, including some from YU, NCYI, > Aish Hatorah and Chabad, > > These are not exactly halakhic sources. I did not see that Michael > brought any pesaq halakha that counters the Mishna Berura. MB 55:46-47 > enumerates the types of `aveirot that disqualify one from being counted > in a minyan. We have rather been around the houses on this before - see inter alia, my posts on Minyan and the great divide and Minyan and sources in volume 48 of mail- jewish. There, inter alia, I discuss Rav Moshe's famous teshuva allowing the counting of a mechalel shabbas b'farhesia [public sabbath desecrator] in Iggeros Moshe Chelek aleph siman 23 as well as the follow on teshuva in Iggeros Moshe Orech Chaim chelek gimmel, siman 14. Most of the aforementioned YU etc rely either on these teshuvas, or some of the other reasoning discussed in that thread (tinok shenishba etc) for the halachic positions stated above. If you go back through that thread, you will see that these issues were extensively debated, so I will not go into detail here. However to be fair it is clear that while there is a significant body of opinion that is matir [permits], there is a body of opinion that assurs counting a mechalel shabbas b'farhesia in a minyan. The only tweak in this case (although it was in fact adverted to in the previous thread) is that it does not by any means appear clear that the person who was not acceptable in the eyes of the "waiter" outside of the room was indeed a mechalel shabbas b'farhesia. Even somebody who holds by those who insist that one should not count into a minyan a mechalel shabbas b'farhesia, is on much more difficult ground, it seems to me, if they have any form of safek [doubt] as to his status. Firstly minyan is d'rabbanan, so safek d'rabanan l'kula [for a rabbinical requirement we rule leniently]. Secondly even when one would hold in a certain way, in ideal circumstances, in more difficult circumstances, when there is a machlokus haposkim [disagreement of rulings], one is often permitted if not required to rely on the alternative opinions, so long as they fall within the authorative spectrum (which it is hard to argue the likes of Rav Moshe Feinstein do not). In this case, with the potential for embarressment (a d'orisa violation liked by the gemora to murder) to counterbalance, as well as potentially holding up a minyan (or not having one, he could have waited and waited and no 11th might have showed), there appear to be a lot of counterbalancing arguments even for somebody who would normally follow a different opinion (in this case possibly even tifrosh min hazibbur - separating oneself from the community). At the very least, with what would seem to be a safek safeka in a d'rabanan, and potential d'orisa violations on the other side, one would hope that the call on the cell phone was to his LOR. Regards Chana Luntz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Steiner <marksa@...> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:44:22 +0200 Subject: RE: Rabbi Reuven Agushewitz In response to Dr. Katz' request to hear more about Rabbi Reuven Agushewitz, I will reproduce some material from my translation of Faith and Heresy, R.A.'s third book (I am now working on his second book Principles of Philosophy). First, a blurb written by Professor Harry Frankfurt of Yale and Princeton: "This is a truly outstanding philosophical work. It makes penetrating, important, and genuinely original contributions to the debate concerning freedom of the will, and it does so with admirable rigor, lucidity, and charm." Those not in the academic world will not understand my astonishment upon receiving this blurb from one of the most prominent philosophers of the English speaking world working on the free will problem. Professor Frankfurt, writing in 2004, says that the book, which appeared in 1948, written by a man with (I think) no formal university training, makes genuinely original contributions to a debate thousands of years old. I receive junk written by autodidacts in philosophy every other week. The man must have been a genius. As for Talmud, readers can download his posthumous Bi'ur Reuven on Bava Kamma from the website that preserves old Hebrew books written in the U.S., www.hebrewbooks.org -- this sefer earned haskamot from R. J. B. Soloveitchik and R. Aharon Kotler. I should mention that R.A.'s brother shortened his name to Agus, and thus we was related to a number of personalities readers of mail-jewish might be familiar with. In direct answer to Dr. Katz' request, now, I will reproduce from the end of my Translator's Introduction, an excerpt from a volume I and nobody else had remembered, an autobiography written by R.A.' brother, who was a halutz in Eretz Yisrael before World War One. I believe that R.A. died while visiting this brother in 1951. (By the way, this autobiography, translated from Hebrew into English by R.A.'s nephew, a physician in Borough Park, is well worth reading for it's own sake--it has valuable details about life in EY before, during, and after WW I. Those who visit one of the first neighborhoods of Tel-Aviv, Neve Tzedek (well worth a visit), should be aware that this brother taught in the school there, which is still standing.) Appendix: A Tale of Two Brothers Well after writing this Introduction, I found out that R. Reuven's brother, Chaim Shmuel (see Agushewitz' own Introduction for details of his life), who had adopted the name Rubin to avoid the Czarist draft, had written an autobiography, and that Professor Shaul Stampfer of Hebrew University had a copy. I thus came upon a totally unexpected source of biographical information about our author. I reproduce below verbatim, Chaim Shmuel's account of his meeting with R. Reuven in Antwerp, 1928. Chaim Shmuel was returning to Eretz Israel after a stay in the United States, where he had completed a degree in chemistry. (This work was translated into English by Dr. Haim Agus, R. Reuven's nephew; I made a few stylistic corrections.) We docked at last in Antwerp. I was hoping to see my brother waiting for me on the pier, but then I realized that it was Saturday. I would not dare take a cab since he probably lived with ultra orthodox people, for which Antwerp was famous. So I dragged myself on foot, more than one Sabbath distance, till I reached my destination. I passed many bearded Jews with streimels. I knocked on the door, introduced myself as the brother of Reuven and was received with sincere joy. The house exuded the spirit of Sabbath. But my brother was out of town. He had received my letter, but could not meet me at the pier on Saturday. The landlord, a rich diamond merchant, expressed respect and veneration of my brother. At first I thought that there had to be a family tie between my brother and this family, but it became clear that it was pure love and adoration. I waited impatiently for Reuven's arrival. When he appeared, our encounter was very emotional, with flowing tears of joy. He did not want to tire me and was concerned about quarters for me for the night. He took me to my lodging. My host belonged to a fanatically religious sect. He was against Zionism and opposed to free thinkers migrating to the Holy Land. Naturally, it was useless to have any discussions with him. I preferred to learn from him about my brother's living conditions. He spoke of him with great respect. He told me that Reuven exists on the income of several private lessons and of holding a Talmud class for adults under the auspices of the chief rabbi, Amiel. The latter admired Reuven's genius and befriended him. From his earnings Reuven supported a young man who was indigent. Let me give now a thumb nail biography of this remarkable, modest man, my brother. After graduating from cheder, he elected to continue his studies in the yeshivah of Slobodka, known as Knesset Israel (named after the great Rabbi Israel Salanter). This school was renowned for its emphasis on Ethics and Morality, known as Mussar. Reuven had absorbed the teachings to the full and adopted that system as a way of life. He shied away from ordination as rabbi as being an expression of flaunting pride. Father was greatly distressed that such a talent should not be properly crowned. Being a determined young man with righteous conviction, my brother resisted all arguments. It was only after my father took seriously ill, that he went to Grodno and was ordained enthusiastically by one of the great rabbis, at the remarkable age of seventeen. At the end of World War 1, after the October Revolution, he became a social activist and made the rounds, preaching justice and social equality based on religious tenets and principles. It was his belief that religion was the foundation of morality and ethics. The new Polish government, virulently anti communist, branded him as a dangerous radical and issued an order for his arrest. Luckily, he got wind of it in time and managed to escape to Germany. From there he went to Belgium. Rabbi Amiel (later, chief Rabbi of Tel Aviv) became his patron and mentor. From his letters I learned that he planned to get a doctorate in France. Indeed, he traveled to Paris and prepared to enroll in Sorbonne University. But his economic poverty was unbearable. His physical appearance, short and thin, did not help either in finding a job. He was hungry and ill clad and was sure that he headed for tuberculosis. Completely frustrated, he decided to go back to Antwerp. There he embarked on a study of philosophy in depth. He researched late in the night and wrote a critique on Immanuel Kant, which is still in manuscript. Years later he published, in Yiddish, three books on philosophyBon Old Grecian, Middle Ages and Modern TheoriesBfinding fault with such giants as Aristotle, Spinoza and DescartesBwhich received favorable reviews. His last book, Faith and Apostasy, was translated into Hebrew by Prof. Chaim Lipschitz and published by Rabbi Kook's Institute. His ethical stature was towering and unforgettable. I took a long stroll with him and was amazed at his tremendous erudition and profundity of thought. He had a positive attitude towards Eretz Israel and Aliyah. I asked him to explain to me the reasons for his excessive religious observance. He said that once he became convinced that Judaism was the true religion and that the practice thereof is an essential principle, he followed the commands of the Shulchan Aruch to the letter. He took me around to visit many homes. Wherever he went he elicited respect and was welcomed at all times. When he stopped at a chess game, play would become serious and when he smiled at a certain move, it would arouse increased attention. I conveyed to him that Juda Leib would like him to come to New York, and offered to help him to settle there. He said that he got a letter from him to that effect and that he was debating whether he could adjust to the materialistic spirit of that country. Nevertheless, he decided to answer in the positive, mainly because of the wonderful libraries of New York. Too bad I could not stay longer than two days. At the railroad station, on the way to Paris, we parted tearfully. A young man came over later and asked me: "That fellow, the one who gave you such an emotional good bye, what is he to you?" I said: "That's my brother, why?" He said: "If there is any truth to the legend of the Thirty Six just men, then he is one of them. That's the reputation he has in the diamond industry. " In the two hour train ride from Antwerp to Paris by way of Brussels, I felt very depressed about the eternal fate of righteous people, as exemplified by my brother. At home he suffered more than any other child, because he was headstrong, because of his extraordinary brainpower that could not be confined to the world of the Talmud, and because of his demands for justice for all. He missed motherly love he hardly knew her. Father was always full of resentment about his own hard life and the orphans grew up in sadness. As Reuven matured, his great soul was buffeted by the new storms in society that promised justice and equality and strongly challenged the traditions. Father considered these vacillations as deviations from the straight path. His [i.e., Reuven=s] foreshortened life thus passed without a spark of pleasure. His only satisfaction was the philosophical speculations that he incorporated in his three published books and the several articles in the Jewish press. Very few books, however, are destined for eternity and in the course of time, as Solomon says, it is all forgotten. *** In preparing this work for publication, I have done my best to insure that R. Reuven Agushewitz is not forgotten. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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