Volume 58 Number 44 Produced: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:49:14 EDT Subjects Discussed In This Issue: A grammatical query [Martin Stern] Another Segulah [Shmuel Himelstein] Magical influences on halacha (6) [Rose Landowne Akiva Miller Sam Gamoran Mark Steiner Eitan Fiorino] New-Age Kabbalah [Shmuel Himelstein] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Stern <md.stern@...> Date: Sun, Jul 25,2010 at 05:01 AM Subject: A grammatical query I have noticed that when the second person direct object is appended to a verb, it sometimes appears as "-ekha", without a dagesh in the final kaf, and at others as "-eka", with a dagesh in it, for example "metsavekha/metsaveka = [as I have] commanded you". As far as I can see there is no obvious rule that dictates which shall be used in any particular case. Does anyone know the explaination? Martin Stern ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shmuel Himelstein <himels@...> Date: Thu, Jul 29,2010 at 03:01 AM Subject: Another Segulah The Israeli weekly BeSheva (a religious Zionist newspaper) has been carrying an ad for weeks for Yayin Segulah ("spiritually efficacious (?) wine"). This carries the endorsement of Rabbanit Kanievski, who is quoted as saying that "this wine brings about marvelous deliverances" ("yeshu'ot nifla'ot"). There are two endorsements by people who evidently used the wine: "We were successful in health and earning a living," and "I won my case." The ad also continues that "this is a rare gift and blessing." The cost of the wine, delivered in Israel, is NIS 54 per bottle, and the proceeds go to a charity named "Ot Chaim." Shmuel Himelstein ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rose Landowne <Roselandow@...> Date: Mon, Jul 26,2010 at 07:01 PM Subject: Magical influences on halacha On Jul 24, 2010, Eitan said: > I have a problem with people believing that if they, for example, bake a > key into a challah after pesach, it is somehow going to impact their > material well being for the coming year. I don't think it's necessary to look at these things in a magical way or, otherwise, write them off as just having fun. I think these practices help us to focus on what our hopes and dreams are, and enable us to express our goals in a way that makes it clear that we recognize that the outcome depends both on our actions and God's plan for us. Rose Landowne ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Guttmann <david.guttman@...> Date: Mon, Jul 26,2010 at 09:01 PM Subject: Magical Influences on halacha Rabbi Hendel Is suggesting that treating a real life occurrence symbolically the same way that a dream is prohibited. But interpreting a dream symbolically and following what it seems to suggest is permissible and that is how the Gemara on dreams should be understood. I do not have a problem with that and I agree that although I do not think a dream to a non developed perfected individual is a divine message, it is a message of his own sub-conscious struggling with ambivalence. However Rabbi Hendel concludes that (1) There is no Biblical prohibition of believing that there is life on Mars (2) There is no prohibition of using Electromagnetic therapy I disagree strongly. If science were to demonstrate unequivocally that there is no life on Mars or that electromagnetic therapy did not work and one would believe there is, or it does work, because of some "intuitive" or "transcendental' insight, that would be tantamount to magic and prohibited. All denial of scientifically demonstrable reality is Kishuf (magic). The Amoraim and Tannaim as well as the Rishonim who permitted certain acts that we now know to be false, permitted because they thought these things really worked. These things did not contradict the science of their time. (see the exchange between Abba Mari and Rashba in Minchat Kenaot printed at the end of the Dimitrovsky edition of Shut Rashba regarding the amulet with a lion design used as a cure for certain illnesses). These same greats living in our times and confronted with the scientific evidence humanity has developed since would have ruled differently. I am convinced of that. I can prove all this from a variety of discussions on this in Rambam. Susan Kane asks - Why does it bother rationalists so much if other people worry about the evil eye or mazal or segulot? The answer is that the Torah requires from us to accept the truth as we know it and we may not believe in falsehoods. Midvar Sheker tirchak - distance yourself from falsehood - is a commandment. Jewish Religion is not "the opiate of the masses" and does not want us to feel good by soothing our insecurities. It wants to make us a nation of truth seekers who look at reality as it is and play our role in the world based on that reality. It wants us to do everything we can to ensure our survival and continuity through generations of man eternally and take care of the world God gave us to care for and nurture by using the brain He gave us and the free will He endowed us with. That is why idolatry - the ultimate falsehood and "opiate of the masses" is the greatest sin and outweighs all other sins. David Guttmann If you agree that Believing is Knowing, join me in the search for Knowledge at http://yediah.blogspot.com/ Ve'izen vechiker (Kohelet 12:9) subscribe to Hakirah at www.hakirah.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Akiva Miller <kennethgmiller@...> Date: Mon, Jul 26,2010 at 11:01 PM Subject: Magical influences on halacha Susan Kane asked: > I understand that you are a rationalist and respect that, but ... > why can't the rest of us have a little fun? > To me, a religion without ritual and a bit of superstition is like > health food 365 days of the year. I know it's good for me, but it > has no "ta'am" (taste). As I see it, the goal of Torah is not to be entertaining. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "superstition", but I hope you're making sure to steer clear of anything that the Torah might forbid as being magic or idolatry. On the other hand, there are plenty of legitimate Jewish rituals which I'm unable to understand, and to me, they provide the mystery that I suspect you are looking for. One example is washing my hands 3 times alternately each morning, or the ritual washing before bread. There are plenty of ancient rituals. The prophets ordained the taking of Hoshanos on the last day of Chol Hamoed Sukkos. After seven pages of trying to explain it, Rabbi Eliyahu Kitov, in "The Book of our Heritage", page 208, concludes: "This custom of beating the aravah on the ground contains profound esoteric significance, and only the Great of Israel merit the knowledge of those secrets. The uninitiated should intend merely to abide by the custom of the Prophets and the Sages of all the generations. Their reward for emulating their actions, will be regarded by G-d as if they had indeed had their profound intentions." I get plenty of "ta'am" from the rituals that I do understand, too. I pick up a cup of wine every week and make a toast to the One Who gave us the incredible Shabbos. I reexperience history in the reenactments on each holiday. On a good day, when I've taken the time to prepare for my prayers and put the right effort and thought into it, talking to my Creator gives me such a high that I honestly wonder why you need to look elsewhere. > Why does it bother rationalists so much if other people worry > about the evil eye or mazal or segulot? No one said that you > have to do it. You *might* be drawing the line in the wrong place. I don't make any distinctions between rational rituals and irrational ones, but between the ones which are/aren't legitimate parts of Judaism. If I see something which purports to be a legitimate part of Judaism, but to my understanding is *not* a legitimate part of Judaism, then I feel an obligation to protest, or at least to investigate its legitimacy. This is because I care about you as a fellow Jew, and because I care about G-d, and I don't want to see Him misrepresented. I confess that when I encounter such a ritual, I might blurt out, "That doesn't make sense!" You might interpret that as me saying, "I only accept rational customs," but if so, then I apologize. What I really mean is, "That doesn't seem to fit in with other things I know about Torah." Often, if I investigate sufficiently, I can find an explanation which shows how the idea fits. For example, suppose something very good happened to someone. I might tell him that I am happy for his good fortune (and not at all jealous of him). Someone might point out that I am inviting the "evil eye" by speaking of such things. That used to sound like superstitious nonsense to me. But then someone reminded me that angels are real beings, and upon hearing about this person's good fortune, they might choose to reexamine whether he really deserved it or not. Thus, my sincere appreciation for his happiness might actually cause him to lose it! Therefore, we append the phrase "bli ayin hara - without an evil eye", as a prayer to G-d that this goodness should not be removed. I have not heard a comparable explanation for why some people wear a red string around their wrists, so I still shy away from it. You might say, "Why not do it? It's fun!" But to me, it is not fun; it's creepy and reminiscent of foolish idolatry. I hope someone can someday explain it to me, and I'll feel a lot better about it. (Once upon a time, someone did explain to me about putting the key in the challah, but I've forgotten the explanation.) Akiva Miller _ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Gamoran <SGamoran@...> Date: Tue, Jul 27,2010 at 01:01 AM Subject: Magical influences on halacha Susan Kane <suekane@...> wrote: > Eitan said: > >> I have a problem with people believing that if they, for example, bake a >> key into a challah after pesach, it is somehow going to impact their >> material well being for the coming year. > > I understand that you are a rationalist and respect that, but ... why > can't the rest of us have a little fun? > > To me, a religion without ritual and a bit of superstition is like health > food 365 days of the year. I know it's good for me, but it has no > "ta'am" (taste). > > Also Russell J Hendel <rjhendel@...> wrote: > > (3) However placing KEYS in my loaves (which symbolically means that my meal > will have the KEY to success) is prohibited What if, by baking a schlissel [key -MOD] Challah, I am just saying: "Hashem, by this act I am asking you for success in the coming year?" I don't do it because it was never our family's custom but I don't see why this has to be interpreted as a superstitious act. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Steiner <marksa@...> Date: Tue, Jul 27,2010 at 04:01 AM Subject: Magical influences on halacha If I am not mistaken, one of the major issues concerning magic and astrology has not been addressed (if I am mistaken, I apologize). The Rambam put the laws against magic and astrology in Chapter 11 of Laws of Idolatry together with the prohibition of going in the "ways of the nations". Of course he regarded magic and astrology as false as doctrines not just beliefs, but they were part and parcel of idolatrous practices. It was for this reason that the Rambam went on the warpath against them in his commentaries and especially letters to the Jewish communities. It would seem that the Rambam was the ONLY figure in the "Middle Ages" who fought against these kinds of superstitions. There were Moslem thinkers who rejected astrology and magic but they believed that there is no point in discussing these issues with the primitive peasants. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eitan Fiorino <afiorino@...> Date: Tue, Jul 27,2010 at 11:01 AM Subject: Magical influences on halacha Susan Kane <suekane@...> wrote (MJ 58 # 42): > Eitan said: >> I have a problem with people believing that if they, for example, bake >> a key into a challah after pesach, it is somehow going to impact their >> material well being for the coming year. > > I understand that you are a rationalist and respect that, but > ... why can't the rest of us have a little fun? > > To me, a religion without ritual and a bit of superstition is > like health food 365 days of the year. I know it's good for > me, but it has no "ta'am" (taste). Just to clarify - I was certainly no making an argument that we should have "religion without ritual" - indeed Judaism is chock full of rituals. I would simply distinguish between rituals that are permitted/required, and those that are explicitly forbidden/possibly forbidden. As far as superstition goes - well, I think that is a very relative term; for some, religion itself is an exercise in superstition. I think the issue is not "can we abolish all superstitions?" but rather "should superstitious practices at odds with halacha be subject to crtiticism on those grounds?" > Why does it bother rationalists so much if other people worry > about the evil eye or mazal or segulot? No one said that you > have to do it. Why are people like me bothered by some supersticious beliefs held by others? It is a good question. I can only speak for myself. It has been my very long experience that people who hold superstitious beliefs about how the world works often make poor decisions when confronted with life issues in which they look to the superstitious belief as an answer. Perhaps an example will clarify - when I was still practicing medicine I regularly encountered people with beliefs about their medical condition that were either frankly or borderline superstitious. These beliefs often clashed with recommended therapies - regardless of the modality (drugs, surgery, preventive care, etc.), and in such clashes, the superstitions regularly won out. And in many many cases, it was clear to me that the patient clung to a superstitious belief in a desperate attempt to avoid confronting the reality of their medical situation, even if that situation was dire. So, yes - it bothers me when people engage in superstitious thinking. I view such thinking as a sakana. This is not a claim that science has all the answers, nor is it a claim that a purely rational society would be flawless. This is merely a view that gives great weight to logic, rational thought, reason and empirical evidence in the context of decision-making, and which sees lots of downside and little upside to the alternative approach. > And why do you assume that such actions try to change the > will of G-d anymore than saving someone's life through antibiotics? Well, we have an explicit commandment to heal. And halacha gives tremendous deference to contemporary expertise in medical practitioners in determining how to best heal a sick person. So I don't view the use of antibiotics as trying to change God's will - on the contrary, it is fulfilling God's will. > In both cases, we hope that G-d recognizes our *effort* -- > whether that effort is through science or through prayer -- > and that our work here will draw down G-d's compassion / attention. If we are trying to draw God's mercy, compassion, attention or whatever, why would we engage in practices that are either clearly forbidden or which may be forbidden? It doesn't make any sense to me. Why would anyone believe for a minute that baking a key in a challah is more efficacious at achieving the intended goal than simply praying? (let alone hard work, good financial planning, and living within one's means ...). Or that it would make the hoped-for outcome even more likely than tefila alone would? Can anyone justify a line of reasoning that goes like this: "Let's see, I'm making a wedding this coming year and I'm not sure how to pay for it; I worked like a dog to put myself in line for that big promotion, gave up my BMW in favor of a Honda Civic, and I have been davening with tremendous kavanah about this. Now I'll just toss in a little safek avoda zara to really cover all the bases." If you'll tell me "well people don't think of schlissel challah as safek avoda zara" then my answer is: precisely; that is precisely the problem. -Eitan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shmuel Himelstein <himels@...> Date: Sun, Jul 18,2010 at 07:01 AM Subject: New-Age Kabbalah The Jerusalem Post has a freebie Hebrew newspaper called "Yisrael Post." This paper regularly runs an ad showing a picture of a gentleman who does not seem to be wearing any headgear, with his hair parted in the middle and writing with a quill, with the following text: > That we should not know of troubles. > Practical Solutions with the Kabbalist Yitzchak Mizrachi. > Register now and receive directly from the Kabbalist Yitzchak Mizrachi > practical solutions for success in income, love, removing the Evil Eye, > and many other solutions to daily problems. > Send the word "ayin" by SMS to XXXX. The cost of this service is NIS 15 monthly. Who says that Judaism doesn't keep up with the times? Shmuel Himelstein ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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