Volume 61 Number 29 Produced: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 02:02:40 EDT Subjects Discussed In This Issue: Educational Stamps, Websites and Videos for the Jewish New Year [Jacob Richman] Modesty at Shabbos table [Sammy Finkelman] Modesty at the Shabbos Table [Martin Stern] Rabbi Doniel Neustadt (2) [Martin Stern Stephen Phillips] Type sizes in siddurim [Daniel Geretz] When to release the tzitzit after Kriat Shema [Kalonymos Nachtvogel] Yisrael amekha [Martin Stern] Zu darka shel Torah? - Is this the way of the Torah? [Frank Silbermann] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jacob Richman <jrichman@...> Date: Mon, Sep 3,2012 at 07:01 PM Subject: Educational Stamps, Websites and Videos for the Jewish New Year Hi Everyone! Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year 5773, begins Sunday night, September 16, 2012. I scanned and posted on my website the new Israeli stamps that were issued in September 2012. I included the stamp itself, the first day cover, and an English and a Hebrew flyer about the stamp. - Festivals 2012 - The Month of the Tishrei Rosh Hashanah, Tashlikh Yom Kippur, Kol Nidrei Prayers Sukkot, Bear the Lulav - Thanks to Them - Senior Citizens Contribution to Israel - 100 Years - Hadassah The Women's Zionist Organization of Ameica - The Highest and Lowest Places on Earth Israel-Nepal Joint Issue - Tourism - Visit Israel Rosh Hanikra Jaffa Timna - IPA - International Police Association, Israel - 50 Years The new stamp images are located at: http://www.jr.co.il/pictures/stamps/index-2012.html I also uploaded the images to Facebook. The Facebook address is: http://on.fb.me/israeli-stamps-2012 The Jewish Trivia Quiz http://www.jewish-trivia.com has 55 multiple choice questions about Rosh Hashana. Which special prayer is said in the days before Rosh Hashana ? Which group of foods is customary to eat on Rosh Hashana ? What are the other three names of Rosh Hashana ? How many times is the shofar sounded during Rosh Hashana ? Which food is it customary NOT to eat on Rosh Hashana ? The above questions are examples from the multiple choice Flash quiz. There are two levels of questions and two timer settings. Adults and children will find The Jewish Trivia Quiz entertaining and educational. Rosh Hashana Clipart http://www.jewish-clipart.com Whether you need a picture for your child's class project, a graphic for your synagogue, Hillel or JCC New Year announcement, the Jewish Clipart Database has the pictures for you. You can copy, save and print the graphics in three different sizes. Rosh Hashana Cool Videos http://www.jr.co.il/videos/rosh-hashana-videos.htm The list has 173 cool Rosh HaShana videos. There is something for everyone. To learn more about Rosh Hashana , I posted on my website 74 links ranging from laws and customs to games and recipes. Site languages include English, Hebrew, French, German, Italian, Portugese, Russian and Spanish. http://www.jr.co.il/hotsites/j-hdayrh.htm Last but not least, the 3 Year Jewish Holiday Calendar is located at: http://www.jr.co.il/calendar.htm For best printed results use the Acrobat PDF file. When printing the PDF file use the print option "fit to print margins". Please share the resources. Thanks! Enjoy! Shana Tova - Have a Good Year! Jacob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sammy Finkelman <sammy.finkelman@...> Date: Wed, Aug 29,2012 at 06:01 PM Subject: Modesty at Shabbos table Eli Turkel (MJ 61#26) anticipated what I had to say. I noticed the same contradiction between where the rule about covering the hair applies and where Kiddush is said. > Question: May Kiddush be recited in the presence of a married female guest > whose hair is not covered? Martin Stern (MJ 61#23) quoted The Weekly Halacha Discussion as answering: > According to Torah law a married (1) woman must cover her hair whenever she > is outside her home (2)" The only argument that it applies also in the home is from the Zohar. Where is Kiddush said? Inside the home!!! So how can it say: > if a married lady with uncovered hair is sitting at your Shabbos table, > Kiddush may not be recited. This halacha applies to one's own wife, sister, > mother, daughter and granddaughter as well." Wife, too? Where there is a question about the wife, it's whether she is there at all or not, because it might reduce his concentration for Shema or Shemonah Esrei. Which is not a question when this is about Kiddush, since it is a santification or marking of Shabbos, and not a prayer, although it may be a brachah WHERE HE IS TRYING TO BE MOTZEI HER! And maybe others. Besides that, it claims that uncovered hair in an married woman is ervah because any part of the female body that is usually covered (at least in the circles he goes in) becomes ervah. But, covering the hair is not at all done with unmarried women. Where do you get such a notion that the same body part is ervah in some women and not in others?? This is such an absurdity I don't think his sources would bear him out. (aside maybe from the latest generation) When you say the visibility of a certain body part is ervah, it's ervah for everyone. Do we say a Jewish woman wearing a bikini let's say is ervah, but it is not ervah if a non-Jewish woman does? Somebody maybe should tell the Chassidim in Williamsburg. No need to worry about women on bicycles - it's not ervah because they're not Jewish. No need to worry about advertisements - those women are probably not Jewish. Or not married at least. You can have ervah because of the situation, but when you talk about what a person usually sees, that is irrespective of whether the women are Jews or non-Jews. But he has it only being ervah in the case of married Jewish woman, not unmarried women and not gentiles. You can't have that. And if there was a difference between unmarried and married women in terms of ervah because of the social situation, I'd think the situation with unmarried women might be more ervah than with married women, since a married woman is usually a little like the daughter of the king to a peasant, in the sense of being unavailable, IF THE MAN KNOWS SHE IS MARRIED. And furthermore, you see in the Mishnah in Bava Kamma 8:6, and in the Gemorah at the bottom of 89b and top of 90a and also 91a at the bottom, that exposure of hair of a married woman has to do with dignity, and not with ervah. The difference between where a head covering was supposed to be worn and where not was whether this was in her home (where who she was is known to anyone who would see her) and whether she was outside, NOT whether or not she was in a place of bodily privacy. All of this comes from a misunderstanding of what the purpose of the covering of the hair is or was. If you don't know why, you start to think the reason is ervah, and you disregard the question as to why that should not apply to unmarried women above a certain age, because that's at least a smaller question than as to why you have it at all. And you accept natural looking wigs because you think ervah is something halachically defined, and has nothing necessarily to do with anything anybody actually experiences. I think we can see from some places in the Gemorah (like some place where what it means when a non-Jewish shifchah uncovers her hair is discussed - maybe somebody who went through Daf Yomi will identify the Gemorah) that the purpose of covering the hair was to let strangers know that she was married, and there never was a question of requiring a divorce but only of permitting one without paying the kesubah. One Rabbi (at the end of Kesuvos I think it is) had critical words for the type of man who would not divorce his wife if she didn't cover the hair but nowhere was it remotely thought to be required. You need to remember, there were no wedding rings in those days. This was the only outward sign of marriage. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Stern <md.stern@...> Date: Sun, Sep 2,2012 at 05:01 AM Subject: Modesty at the Shabbos Table Frank Silbermann wrote (MJ 61#28): > For the record, my first "Local Orthodox Rabbi" poskened to me and my wife > that if the husband's family custom is for the woman to cover her hair, > then the wife was obligated to do so, and if not, then she was not obligated. > (It was not his family custom for the wife to cover her hair, so his wife did > not do so, even though her own mother did cover her hair.) > > In no way am I claiming that this Orthodox rabbi was one of the Gedolei haDor, > nor am I claiming that he could any widely recognized published code of Jewish > law for his opinion. But he was not a layman, and I presume that he received > this opinion from his teachers. > > If I had to guess, I would speculate that his position may have been based on > oral teachings by Rabbi Josef Soleveitchik. I would also guess that he might > have learned it via a Rabbi Aryah Frimer (who once participated on this list). > But again, this is just a guess. I find Frank's interpretation of this ruling strange. According to him, his LOR said "she was not obligated" to cover her hair NOT that "she was permitted" to leave it uncovered in public. While a woman normally adopts the customs of her husband on marriage, this does not apply AFAIK to specifically female matters such as how many candles she lights on Friday night. Covering the hair in public is a halachic requirement which, unfortunately, many otherwise observant women seem to neglect and not merely a family custom so it would seem, a fortiori, wrong for her to go against her ancestral practice. What this LOR might have been ruling was that, if her husband objected to her covering her hair in the house when no strangers are present, or shaving her head as is done in some chasidic circles, she should do as he wishes so as not to be 'repulsive' to him. A husband's wishes might possibly override Dat Yehudit [custom] but NOT Dat Moshe [halachah]. Perhaps Frank should consult the rabbi to clarify his ruling. Martin Stern ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Stern <md.stern@...> Date: Sat, Sep 1,2012 at 05:01 PM Subject: Rabbi Doniel Neustadt May I thank Gilad and Steven (MJ 61#28) for updating the information on Rabbi Doniel Yehuda Neustadt. I had merely copied what I wrote from what was written in his most recent book that I had available, "The Daily Halachah Discussion". Martin Stern ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Phillips <admin@...> Date: Mon, Sep 3,2012 at 09:01 AM Subject: Rabbi Doniel Neustadt Gilad J. Gevaryahu wrote (MJ 61#28): > A biographical item of importance is that he is the grandson of Rabbi Yaakov > Kamenetsky. I believe he is married to R' Yaakov Kamenetsky's granddaughter and that he was responsible for the editing of R' Yaakov's D'rashos on the Torah, "Emes L'Yaakov." Stephen Phillips ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Geretz <danny@...> Date: Sat, Sep 1,2012 at 11:01 PM Subject: Type sizes in siddurim Perry Zamek writes (MJ 61#28): > These are in contrast to older siddurim which used more arbitrary sizing, > as Perets Mett indicated (possibly because pages were being set in type in > parallel, and by different people!). I used to have a Shilo siddur, in > which one of the brachot of the Shacharit Amida was split over two pages, > and was in two different typeface sizes on the two pages! I learned to daven from the Shilo siddur, and as a first grader, I spent an inordinate amount of time worrying that somehow a page was missing from my siddur. I just was unable to figure out why the type size would change from one page to the other. I still have the siddur, and in that particular case, the whole Shacharit Amida is set in a fairly large typeface except for one page. That page has the "Nachem" bracha on the bottom. Probably what happened is that the siddur was originally typeset without it, and then they went back and realized they had forgotten it. In order to add it in, they had to re-typeset the page (otherwise, all of the subsequent pages would have had to have been re-typeset as well). Remember, these siddurim were published in ancient times prior to the widespread use of word-processing and computer-aided publishing! Personally, I favor a consistent typeface throughout, a la Birnbaum. Daniel Geretz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kalonymos Nachtvogel <kalnacht@...> Date: Mon, Sep 3,2012 at 09:01 AM Subject: When to release the tzitzit after Kriat Shema Steven Oppenheimer wrote (MJ 61#21): > A while back, the question was raised as to when is it appropriate to let > go of the tzitzit after kriat shema. Many of us remember from yeshiva > ketana that we were taught to release the tzitzit after "lo'ad kayomet." > However, newer siddurim such as Artscroll instruct one to release the > tzitzit after "ne'emanim venechemadim lo'ad." > > What is the proper way? I would like to suggest that it is assur to take one's tzitzis in hand during the bracha before the Shema and equally assur to release them during the bracha after the Shema. I'm not trying to create a chidush: the halacha is unequivocal that one is not allowed to do anything, not even the mindless action of walking, while making a bracha. Ideally, one should not be holding anything either. Grabbing, releasing and certainly thinking about the subject removes one's focus from the words of the bracha (unless one completely pauses in the middle of the bracha, which then is an interruption. See Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim Siman 183 + Mishna Berura + Biur HaGra 183:24. (walking is allowed under certain circumstances - Orach Chaim 183:11, with Mishnah Berurah 36) Moreover, a pause of more than 3 seconds is considered an interruption: Orach Chaim 206:3, with Mishnah Berurah 12, Sha'ar Hatziyun 13. Someone fumbling for their tzitzis could easily exceed this limit. Rather, since the tzitzit are not needed until the 3rd paragraph of the Shema, one has the entire first 2 paragraphs to take them in hand, and one should release them either at the end of the 3rd paragraph (preferred, so as not to be holding them during the next bracha) or after saying "ga'al Yisrael" at the end of the next bracha. The fact that many people have these customs, and that they have been enshrined in some siddurim, does not alter the fact that they go against hilchos brachos. To worry at all in the middle of a bracha about grabbing and releasing one's tztitzis harms the kavana of the bracha, i.e., the ikkar of the bracha. The brachos are a Takana d'Rabanon, and a minhag against a d'Rabanon is a minhag shtus (especially if it renders the bracha into a bracha l'vatala, which puts the action in the category of issur d'Oraisa). My 2-bits, as my grandfather would have said. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Stern <md.stern@...> Date: Tue, Sep 4,2012 at 04:01 PM Subject: Yisrael amekha At the beginning of both Sim Shalom and Shalom rav we find the phrase "Yisrael amekha" and towards their ends "amekha Yisrael". Has anyone seen any explanation for the reversal of the words Yisrael and amekha or does this not have any significance? Martin Stern ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frank Silbermann <frank_silbermann@...> Date: Tue, Sep 4,2012 at 06:01 PM Subject: Zu darka shel Torah? - Is this the way of the Torah? Shmuel Himelstein wrote (MJ 61#17): > In the hagiographic praises heaped on one of the recently departed Gedolim, > we are told that he was so devoted to his Torah learning that he basically > reserved all his time and mind to Torah learning, to the extent that he did > not know the names of some of his children. We are also told that he had no > contact with his children during the week, except that on Shabbat he would > take a walk with a different one of them each week - during which they did not > converse. His children felt it was a great enough privilege just to walk with > him. ... in my books of stories about Gedolim, I (read) hundreds of such > stories. ... is this really what the Torah expects of us? No. We are told that God will not ask us, "Why were you not like Moses?" Rather, God will ask why you did not reach your potential. > (With respect to the first Gadol above, how could he rule on Jewish law > when he was totally out of touch with the world around him?) My guess is that the writers of codes of Jewish law described practices, customs and interpretations of the Law as actually practiced (and therefore reflecting the real world). Gedolim such as the one described above made it their business to know everything about what was previously said or decided to determine how Rabbis of the past would likely have decided edge cases which they were never asked. Doing so does not require one to be in touch with the world. (It may be inevitable that people who are geniuses at something might be well below average in other areas. We see this in great chess players and mathematicians all the time.) Of course, most people do not go to Gedolim for their practical questions; they go to their local Orthodox rabbi. HE is the one who needs to be in touch with the world around him, if necessary sometimes to give a psak that is not normative but which nonetheless has a halachic basis. The phenomenon you describe becomes a problem only when the Gedolim are asked to make every little decision for people. In that case, people will follow a misguided path until continuing to do so becomes infeasible. Frank Silbermann Memphis, Tennessee ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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