Volume 7 Number 56 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: The Jerusalem Yom Iyun in memory of the Rav [Warren Burstein] Yom Iyun for R. Soloveitchik [Eli Turkel] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <warren@...> (Warren Burstein) Date: Fri, 21 May 93 12:59:52 -0400 Subject: The Jerusalem Yom Iyun in memory of the Rav I want to thank Anthony Waller and mail-jewish for letting me know about the Yom Iyun in Jerusalem. I did not take notes, but I something I heard at the Yom Iyun reminded me of the article by Harold Gellis in v7n46 about Julius Berman's hesped, which mentioned the Rav's reaction to Haolam Hazeh's misreporting (or perhaps simple fabrication) of his response to the commission of inquiry into Sabra and Shatila. Rabbi Louis Bernstein said that the Rav instructed him to call the leaders of the National Religious Party in Israel, and to tell them that if they did not support an investigation into the incident, that he (the Rav) would resign as head of Mizrachi. I think that previous articles which have already expired on my system mentioned the Rav's running for Chief Rabbi of Tel Aviv in the 1930's. Rabbi Bernstein said that two reasons for the Rav's failure to get the job were his association at the time with Aguda, and a conflict with a noted Sefaradi Chacham (whose name I did not record), but R. Bernstein came up with a variety of conflicting versions of the Rav's conflict with the Chacham. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <turkel@...> (Eli Turkel) Date: Sun, 23 May 93 12:19:47 +0300 Subject: Yom Iyun for R. Soloveitchik This past thursday (May 20) there was a Yom Iyun for R. Soloveitchik held at Heichal Shlomo in Jerusalem. organized by the RCA. I will attempt to summarize the talks. There were 4 talks: the first 2 were personal while after supper there was a talk by R. Rabinowitz on the Rav's Torah and by R. Lichtenstein on the Rav's philosophy. My personal comments are in brackets. They also announced that several Young Israel rabbis in Israel are travelling to Volozhin and they will hold another Yom Iyun in the hall of the old Volozhin Yeshiva which has recently been returned by the government to the jewish community. 1. Rabbi Eliezer Bernstein I am leaving out some of the haredi bashing. In 1935 was the Rav's only trip to israel for the chief rabbi of Tel Aviv. One reason he lost was that he was opposed by his great-uncle R. Meir Berlin (Bar Ilan) because the Rav was an Agudist [I heard that R. Meir berlin supported the Rav's application]. During that visit the Rav met with R. Kook shortly before R. Kook's passing. Later the Rav moved to Mizrachi and was offered the position of presidency of the world Mizrachi organization. He turned it down partially on the advice of his mentor R. Hayim Heller. Bernard Bergmann became president instead ! In 1948 Mizrachi was offered the opportunity to bring 18,000 Jews to israel on condition that 900 Polish gentiles also come. Then Agudah opposed the move while the Rav backed the Mizrachi stance of doing it. The Rav joined Mizrachi because he opposed the imposition of religious legislation which he felt only created more hatred. He only favored laws stressing education. [I suspect some of this is anachronistic]. The Rav also opposed Agudah on participation in organizations with non-orthodox groups. The Rav felt that Jewish unity towards the gentile world was of great importance. All this on condition that the questions of Jewish faith are discussed with these organizations. He met with Ben Gurion and Begin. Under pressure he met with some cardinal. He had three questions for the cardinal. Would the vatican recognize Israel - yes. Would the vatican recognize Jerusalem as the capital - a hesitant yes. Would the vatican agree to the rebuilding of the Temple -no and the discussion ended. The Rav did not accept the position of chief rabbi of Israel because he felt the position was to politicized. The Rav was a rationalist and opposed Messianism. He felt that the western wall (kotel ha-maravi) was not worth a single jewish soul. The Rav personally called Hammer and Burg (of the Israel Mizrachi party) to say that he would resign from the party if they voted against the enquiry into the events in sabra and Shatilla. 2. R.Moshe Gorelik The Rav was intellectually honest and never repeated a shiur. He once gave a 2 hour shiur on a Milchamot (Ramban) which all the best boys in the shiur thought was particularly brilliant. The next day in shiur the Rav was very upset because none of the students had found the flaw in the shiur. The Rav himself stayed up to 2am revising his logic and proceeded with a whole new shiur on the Ramban. The Rav insisted that in his school, Maimonides, that there be an equal education for both boys and girls. The Rav gave the first talmud shiur in Stern to inaugurate their program in Talmud. The were several boys who volunteered to help the Rav during his stays in YU from Boston. The Rav once had an argument with them who would take out the garbage. The boys insisted it was not right for the Rosh yeshiva to take out garbage was the Rav insisted it was his job. They finally compromized and each one held one side of the garbage bag to bring it out. Once the Rav went to a hospital to check out the kitchen. afterwards he insisted on visiting every patient in the hospital both Jewish and non-Jewish. Though he encouraged secular studies in YU he stressed the primacy of learning Torah. He once spent shabbat in NY at a local host. The host showed off the paintings on his wall to the Rav and afterwards said that the Rav probably couldn't understand the significance of these paintings. The Rav countered that in fact the host did not really appreciate the paintings and proceeded with a discouse of the history of art. He opposed "modern orthodoxy" because they were not committed enough to Torah learning. The Rav said there are 3 levels of Jews. 1. Those with a jewish identity 2. those that observe mitzvot 3. those that learn Torah. 3. R. Rabinowitz (Rosh Yeshiva in Maale Adumim) Though not a student of the Rav he will give an example of the Rav's learning. a. In Berachot 57 there is a discussion of how many people are needed for a minyan. Rav Huna says 9 and the Torak Ark (Aron haKodesh). The Gemara objects that the ark is not a person. The question is to explain the disagreement. The Baal Shem Tov explains that every person is like a Torah. Hence with the ark we have 9 Torahs and their ark which gives a total of 10. The Gemara objects because each person needs to be a Mentsch (?) in addition to being a sefer Torah and so the ark doesn't qualify. The Rav had a different explanation. He felt that 10 people for a minyan have no significance by themselves. What 10 accomplishes is that they become a representative for all of Israel. Rav Huna felt that this connection is through the Torah and so the ark can be used as one of the 10. The gemara objects that we still need 10 people to represent the community and the ark doesn't help. The Rav many times talked about the connection between the individual and the whole. b. Kibbud Shabbat: The Rambam says that in preparing for shabbat one washed oneself, wrapped in tzizit, waiting, and with the proper attitude (koved rosh). The Rav points out that similar laws are given about prayers. Praying means being in fron of G-d and hence the essence of Shabbat is that one is in G-d's presence. The Rambam says that that there is kiddush and havdallah on Yom Tov because they are also called shabbat. The Rav explained that shabbat has two laws. One is that they are holy by themselves and second that the Jews instill holiness in shabbat through kiddush and havdala. Yom Tov is holy only through the Jews and so is connected with shabbat only through the second characterization of shabbat. In Musaf prayers we use the phrase Az Misinai (we were commanded in Sinai). But shabbat was given to the Jews before Sinai in Marah ? The Rav answers that only the first law of shabbat that it comes by itself each 7th day comes from marah but the second characterization which makes it like Yom Tov comes from Sinai. c. Alter - The Rambam says that the dimensions of the alter are exact and that we needed 3 prophets to tell us the size, the place and its use without a Temple. However, later in the same chapter the Rambam says that the size of the alter is not important (me-achev). The Rav answers that there are 2 laws in the alter. As an alter by itself the size is of less importance (le-chatchila). However, the alter is also part of the Temple and in this capacity it needs to be exact. If it is the wrong size then it affects everything else in the Temple. The completeness of the Temple is more than the sum of its parts. So too there exists the individual, the community and all of Israel (klal yisroel). One needs to be complete within one self and also to be part of the larger whole. 4. R. Aharon Lichtenstein (Rosh Yeshiva in Alon Shvut, son-in-law of the Rav and one of his main students). R. Lichtenstein gave a sweeping overview of the Rav's philosophy. The lecture overwhelmed many in the audience and I will do my best. It lasted about an hour and a quarter. I got the impression that he could have easily expanded it to a year long course. R. Lichtenstein pointed out that the Rav never had a system of philosophy and he (R. Aharon) was doubtful that one existed. the Rav was best with particular facets rather than trying to coordinate and integrate. His early interests were in neo-Kantism and the philosophy of science. He is most famous for his later works which stress human concerns and man as a spiritual being. Ish ha-halakhah, u-bekashtem misham and Halakhic Mind were written in the early 1940's in the transition period and contain elements of both approachs (though the later 2 were published only many years later). The later works were strictly humanistic. The Rav's philosophy is not a strict philosophy but rather a combination of philosophy, derush and mussar. Though he disagrred with the mussar movement (based on the tradition of Volozhin) he agreed that an unexamined life was not worth living. He was mainly concerned with universal concerns and was in the Rambam's camp against Yehuda ha-levi. The Rav's main goal was the harnessing of halakhah for hashkafa. He sought to explore how Judaism, through Halakhah, reflects on the human condition, maximizes our potential and challenges us with regard to ourselves, the community, the world and G-d. He assumed as a taken that Halakhah enables us to deal with the world. (This is connected with the known arguments about reasons for mitzvot - taamaei hamitzvot). The rav completely rejected any rationalization of mitzvot in terms of immediate help, i.e. comfort, peace of mind, psycholgy, health etc. On the contrary Halakhah creates difficulties and crises but in an ultimate sense it is for our good on this earth (tov lach). When he met with Ben Gurion they did not discuss politics but instead the Rav explained this to Ben Gurion. Lebowitz feels that Halakhah is merely mechanical and has no inner meaning. The Rav opposed this. The Rav dealt at length on the relationship between the individual and the community and Knesset Israel. However the quintessimal concern is with the individual. Top priority is one's own growth however recognizing the dangers of egocentrism and the importance of Hessed [R. Kook stressed the community over the individual]. Compared with R. Kook the Rav's philosophy was more a-historical. Kol Dodi Dofek is not a personal piece. The covenental community began with Abraham's meeting with G-d. Interpreting the world can be viewed and integrated on a religious basis. The Rav did not stress the argument from design. One sees a design in the world because one believes in G-d and not vice-versa. Rather the world is an order waiting to be imprinted by Halakhah. Through Halakhah a new world awaits us. The creative entreprise is crucial both in science and in learning. At the time of Sputnik some Jews objected to studying and going to outer space. The Rav thought the objections were ridiculous. He abhored superficiality in any part of life. The world is waiting to be formed. Kodesh and Chol refer to continuity. This similar to much in R. Kook however the Rav was not a mystic. The Rav appreciated the dynamics of the process, per se. There is a midrash he quoted about a group that was drawing water with a leaky bucket. Someone objected that it was a waste of time. A wise man countered that in the meantime we have cleaned the bucket. ---- Halakhah is demanding and can lead to conflicts. However, its very limiting us can be liberating and energizing. He stressed the importance of learning Torah for its own sake without applications but at the same time recognized the importance of the fruit. This conflict already appears in Ish ha-halchah. Halakhah should not be rationalized. There is no answer to the question of good and evil instead we should just learn how to react to catastrophes through halakhic norms. Later in life there was a counterbalance to this triumphic approach. Possibly due to his surgery for cancer in 1959. Now the Lonely man of Faith is mighty but humble, there is value even in failure. Moshe Rabbenu erected and took apart the tabernacle (mishkan) every day during its dedication. Why? To teach us that even the tabernacle is transient. However with each taking apart there was to be more creativity tomorrow. The Rav never lost his admiration for creativity. U-bekashtem Misham (originally called godly man - Ish ha-elokim) stresses more the yearning of man rather than the strict law of Ish ha-halakhah. The Lonely man of Faith (published by Doubleday) was meant for a more general audience. Mitzvot were given by G-d to purify man. However, once the Torah was given the motzvot have importance by themselves and not in how they contribute to the world. Why do we blow shofar on Rosh Hashana? Because the Torah says so !! If so why do many people give reasons? The Rav answers that these reasons describe some ultimate goal but our observance is not dependent on these ultimate goals. There is no such thing as an irrelevant topic in the Gemara. The Rav's brother (Samuel) once commented that sometimes the Rav spoke of the greatness of the Vilna gaon and sometimes of the greatness of the ordinary Jew. Indeed this conflict existed within the Rav. The Rav took pains to stress that within the soul of the cold Litvak lay a vibrant man. The ordinary Jew reacts emotionally rather than intellectually. There are differences between an Gadol and an ordinary jew but ultimately they are similar. The ordinary Jew cannot become the Ish-halakhah. If he takes it too personal than it can be counterproductive as it is unreachable for most people. Instead it should remain as a vision as as a source of inspiration. The Rav was always a seeker in torah to create and to implement. Eli Turkel <turkel@...> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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