Volume 7 Number 78 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: Amsterdam [Eli Posner] Artscroll related questions [Ben Pashkoff] Dusseldorf, Aachen, Strasbourg, and Metz [Howie Pielet] Jasons Bread Crumbs [Chaim Schild] Kosher Whiskey [Miriam Nadel] Kosher eating in Washington, DC [Barry Levinson] Learning in the Bathroom [Warren Burstein] Oneis, Tinok she-nishbah, etc. [Henry Abramson] Secular Studies [Morris Podolak] Taking time out from lashon hara [Roxanne Neal] Tekhelet [Lon Eisenberg] The "Eight-Day Skip Into the Future" [Yisrael Medad] The frum community in Boston [<jpw@...>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eli Posner <seposner@...> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 22:10:18 -0400 Subject: Amsterdam I am planning a trip via Amsterdam and was wondering if anyone out there has any pointers in the way of kosher food, shuls and any other information along those lines. Thanks. Eli Posner <posner@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <ben@...> (Ben Pashkoff) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 02:35:23 -0400 Subject: Artscroll related questions I have two questions that if someone on MJ can help me out with, I would be grateful: 1) I am currently reading the ArtScroll book on Bircat Cohanim, and came across a reference to the "DOVER SHALOM" and one to the "Baruch She'Amar". The latter I believe is Baruch Halevy Epstein, otherwise known as the Tora Temima. Who is the Dover Shalom??? 2)There is a prayer for the sick at the back of the ArtScroll siddur that my chavruta asked if I can find some information concerning its history and background. Any takers? | Ben Pashkoff <BEN@...> | | Systems Engineer VAX/VMS, Personal Systems | | Computer Center Phone:(972)-4-292177 office | | Technion IIT FAX: (972)-4-236212 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <pielet@...> (Howie Pielet) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 10:00:11 CST Subject: Dusseldorf, Aachen, Strasbourg, and Metz I will be at a steelmaking conference in Dusseldorf Sunday, June 20 through Wednesday, June 23. I may also go to Aachen, Strasbourg, and Metz. I'm trying to decide where to spend the Shabbossim before and after the conference. I am in contact with Michel Eytan in Strasbourg. Are there any mail-jewish participants in those areas? Howie Pielet Internet: <pielet@...> (East Chicago, Indiana, USA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCHILD%<GAIA@...> (Chaim Schild) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 08:13:55 -0400 Subject: Jasons Bread Crumbs Does anybody know if Jasons Bread Crumbs are pas Israel ? Thanx Chaim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Miriam Nadel <nadel@...> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 11:32:26 PDT Subject: Kosher Whiskey On another related note, there was an interesting article in the Wall Street Journal this past week about kosher vodka in Poland. The basic dispute is between two rabbis, each of whom claim to be the chief rabbi of Poland. One of them requires vodka to have certification and the other does not. (And so far as I know, most rabbis throughout the world do not require vodka to be certified, though there may be peculiarities about Polish vodka making procedures.) The interesting part is that the demand for kosher vodka is primarily from non-Jews who believe it is "purer" so there appear to be some economic issues involved in the whole controversy. Miriam Nadel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barry Levinson <70571.1330@...> Date: 10 Jun 93 14:31:11 EDT Subject: Kosher eating in Washington, DC My thanks to Pinchus Laufer for information about the kosher vendor outside the Holocaust Museum, as we are going to be touristing in DC at the end of the month, and 5-year olds tend to get cranky if they don't eat. Does the fellow have hashgacha, or do you know him personally? What hours does he tend to be there? Lunch is really the issue, I guess. Regarding Alan Stein's comment about GWU Hillel's Chinese kosher, that's what started me on the subject back in May. This place (which had good food, btw) closed at the end of April, for reasons as yet obscure to me. It was run by the same people as Hunan Gourmet in Rockville, who didn't give me an explanation when I called for directions a couple of weeks ago. So, it looks like the street vendor is it for downtown DC, at least for now! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <warren@...> (Warren Burstein) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 03:11:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Learning in the Bathroom But what does one do when one is in the bathroom and ones thoughts wander from the math book to Torah? At least my first reaction is to remind myself that Torah study is forbidden (oops, but that, too, is Torah), and then to wonder if thinking about how it's forbidden to study is forbidden (now I'm not just reciting halachot, I'm starting to learn). On a related issue, what if one is in the bathroom and can hear prayers, Torah reading, Shabbat songs, or someone teaching Torah (a not uncommon occurence when a Shabbat meal is being served at the time)? Should one listen? Try not to listen? Hum to oneself? |warren@ But the chef / nysernet.org is worried. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henry Abramson <abramson@...> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 23:48:12 -0400 Subject: Oneis, Tinok she-nishbah, etc. An excellent _sefer_ on this topic, which discusses several aspects of persons raised in non-frum settings with particular reference to our own difficult times, is _Avotot ahavha: kiruv rehokim be-halakha_ (Jerusalem, 1991) by Rabbis Mordechai Becher and M. Neuman. Henry Abramson <abramson@...> University of Toronto ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morris Podolak <morris@...> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 93 03:13:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Secular Studies With regard to Eitan Fiorino's comments about the place of secular studies, I just want to say that it all depends on your reason for engaging in such studies. If the reason you study Greek literature, say, is because you are enamoured with Greek literature, it is bitul Torah period. If you are studying Greek literature because you happen to be a professor of Greek and need to publish or perish, then it is part of earning a living, and we can argue about the relative merits of earning a living this way or as a farmer (for example). If you are studying Greek literature in order to better understand the dangers that the Chashmonaim faced, then I would argue that it is part and parcel of Torah study. I know that not everyone agrees with this point of view. I will even admit that there is an article by Rav Kook z"l in one of the early volumes of Techumin where he argues that Greek drama is forbidden reading. I certainly don't have the temerity to argue with the Rav, but I must confess I don't entirely understand his point of view. Now I picked Greek literature as an example in order to be provocative, and in order to move the discussion away from its natural course (the sciences). Whatever the arguments maybe for or against Greek literature, the case for science is much stronger, and we have already seen a number of postings elaborating on that. Moshe Podolak ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <rln@...> (Roxanne Neal) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 22:22:13 PDT Subject: Taking time out from lashon hara Joel Rapps (mj7.64) refers to "shuls where the congregation takes time out from L'H." In rereading the post I realize what he meant, but on first glance, I thought of my shul here in Los Angeles, Anshe Emes. One of the main reasons I joined was because of the emphasis on Shmiras Halashon. The rabbi is a musmach of Chofetz Chaim yeshiva, and I was impressed the first time I was there for Yom Tov, when before Yizkor, he announced that those who wished could leave and go out into the social hall for a few minutes, "but NO lashon hara!" The shul also has a minhag, that is announced every Friday night after Maariv, that each family study something of the laws of Shmiras Halashon before benching after the Friday night meal. It's a minhag that I would love to see spread far and wide. Maybe there are other shuls that already do this? I have heard that R. Yehuda Ze'ev Segal, ztz"l, the Manchester Rosh Yeshiva, declared shortly before he was nifter this past February that this was an excellent idea, and that he wanted advertisements placed in Jewish newspapers giving his recommendation that this be done in every household. Does anyone know more about this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <eisenbrg@...> (Lon Eisenberg) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 01:06:51 -0400 Subject: Tekhelet I'd like to thank Dr. Sheldon Z. Meth for his response to my question. I think one of the things he said: >...from the Rambam it appears that wearing colored tzitzis is not meakev >[invalidate] the Mitzvah anyway, regardless of the source of the dye. is the point I was looking for. Given that no dye invalidates the zitzit, it would seem that we should all use the dye that the Radziners use. At worst, it is not the right tekhelet; at best, we would be performing a mizvah from the Torah that was previously lost. Why is this not the case? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZER_BLUM%<CARMEL.DECNET@...> (Yisrael Medad) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 03:50:26 -0400 Subject: The "Eight-Day Skip Into the Future" I conferred with Prof. Eli Merzbach of Bar-Ilan on the subject I raised in Vol 7 No 75. Yes, it is true that the possibility does exist of an eight-day skip but our Sages trust that the Messiah will come first. If not, then by the end of the Sixth Millenium (another 247 years) we'll be forced to jump ahead by eight days. Yisrael MEDAD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <jpw@...> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 16:26:20 -0400 Subject: The frum community in Boston I was just invited to a wedding in Boston, Mass. If there are any readers from Boston who could answer some questions, such as where are the Kosher restaurants, etc., it would be most appreciate (may as well make a mini- vacation out of it!) Thanks, Yossi ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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