Volume 33 Number 96 Produced: Sun Dec 31 9:57:20 US/Eastern 2000 Subjects Discussed In This Issue: Aron Kodesh NOT Facing East [Andrew Klafter] Automatic Light [Carl Singer] Compass (2) [Carl Singer, A. Seinfeld] Compass in the Tefillin Bag [David Charlap] Matzpen (Compass) [A. Seinfeld] Mirror for Tefillin [Shlomo Pick] Reference to Tefillin in the Aseret Hadibrot? [Norm Broner] Shabbat Hagadol [Mark Symns] Tefillin & Mirror [Eli Turkel] Tefillin Mirror and Compass [Y. Askotzky] Women in Ha'sala [Menashe Elyashiv] Wrong Way [Menashe Elyashiv] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Klafter <andrew.klafter@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:49:45 -0500 Subject: Aron Kodesh NOT Facing East > >Gilad J. Gevaryahu <Gevaryahu@...> wrote: > > Compass will be justified in an unknown place (desert?), but in > > an established shul, one should daven with the tzibur, even if it > > is not directed in the perfect azimuth. > Zev Sero <Zev@...> > While this certainly seems to be the universal practise, I wonder what > authority it has. From the Shulchan Aruch and the commentaries on the > page it would seem that the opposite is true; shuls are advised to put > the ark in the correct direction so that the people will be davening > towards the front and not in some other direction, which implies that if > - as is the case in many shuls - this advice has been ignored, people > should ignore the ark and daven in the correct direction. I have never > seen anybody doing this, especially when the ark is not even close to > the correct direction, but I have long wondered why. The "authority" of this "universal practise" is actually quite solid. Orach Chaim 94; Be'er Hetev, Sa'if Katan 3: "A synagoguge in which they set up the holy ark on the wall in the southern direction and everyone prayers toward the ark which is to the south--one can pray toward the east even though the whole congregation is praying toward the south. [By doing so] there is no issue of "Yehura" (public display of arrogance) or "Eiva" (arousing hatred) (Yad Eliyahu 1), but a great scholar disagreed with him [and held that] one may only pray toward the direction which the congregation is praying." It appears to me that from the way this is phrased that the Be'er Hetev sees the latter opinion, requiring one to CONFORM to the congregation as less problematic. The Mishna Berura (Sa'if Katan 10) sort of compromises, but mainly sides with the opinion that one must pray the same direction as the congregation: "If everyone is praying toward the the aron kodesh which is on the south side, even though this is improper as mentioned above in Sa'if Katon #9, nevertheless one who comes there to pray should pray toward the direction in which the congregation is praying...." But at the end of this comment he recommends that one can "turn his face toward the east" even though he is standing facing toward the south. As with many other topics in halacha when you haven't had a chance to look up the sources, sticking to what the congregation and rabbi are doing is generally a safer bet than assuming that the entire synagogue and rabbi are wrong and relying on one's own logic. Andrew B. Klafter, MD Department of Psychiatry-University of Cincinnati Medical Arts Building 8500, M.L. 665L 222 Piedmont Ave. Cincinnati OH 45219 (513)475-8710 FAX(513)475-8023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Singer <CARLSINGER@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:44:17 EST Subject: Automatic Light << From: S&M Rosen <mrosen@...> I am very interested in the current discussion on the automatic sensor light issue as it is impacting us directly. Our (Jewish) neighbor has installed such a light and since our walkways are next to each other, it is impossible to enter our house without triggering the floodlight. There is no other means to enter/exit our house. We have tried speaking to this neighbor, appealing to city hall, and so forth, but the light remains. Either we are homebound Friday night or we will set off the light. Does anyone have a psak in a similar situation? >> This may not be the type of solution you are looking for (an engineering, not halachik one) -- verify that this light is a motion sensor (not a heat sensor) and determine what it takes to set it off -- perhaps a strategically placed flag, or metalic baloon or spinning wheel whirling in the wind, or an electric fan or some such item -- perhaps a slow display motor with a paddle -- so the light will be constantly on. There may be legal solutions, but that's not my turf. Kol Tov Carl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carl Singer <CARLSINGER@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:49:43 EST Subject: Compass << I noticed that some people lately are not only carrying a mirror in their tefilin bag but also a compass. This was not the case years ago and I would classify it as an additional chumra for some, or maybe an obsessive compulsive behavior for others. >> I carry a compass in my vochedik tallis bag -- I wouldn't think of using it in a shule -- I normally face the same direction as the tzibor which is towards the Aron Kodesh. But since I used to travel alot, my dear Wife bought we one -- when you arrive into a hotel late at night and can't use the sun or the prevailing westerly winds as a guide, it makes sense -- although I imagine the Rebono Shel Oylam hears us even if we're not facing directly towards his Temple -- may it soon be rebuilt. Kol Tov Carl Singer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: A. Seinfeld <aseinfeld@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:25:34 -0800 Subject: Re: Compass > There was a shul I used to daven in, where the ark was on a wall facing > northeast. Everyone would daven facing that wall, except for one guy, > who always davened facing due east, 45 degrees away from the direction > everyone else was facing. No one, including me, wanted to say anything > to him, but I think everyone thought it was a little odd. I'm glad to > hear that there was a halachic basis for what he was doing. > > Of course, since this was in the northeastern US, northeast was probably > more closely aligned with a great circle route to Jerusalem than due > east was, but that's another issue. Many years ago I asked a shayla > about great circle routes, and was told that one should face the > direction one would actually travel in while going to Jerusalem, rather > than a great circle route. Based on that psak, you should have faced Northeast, as that is indeed the direction planes fly to Israel (even if it's via London or Frankfurt). All the more so from the NW (Seattle, Vancouver). So, the ark was in the right place and the man was wrong. Incidentally, who gave you the psak on the direction? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Charlap <shamino@...> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:43:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Compass in the Tefillin Bag Mike Gerver wrote: > Of course, since this was in the northeastern US, northeast was > probably more closely aligned with a great circle route to Jerusalem > than due east was, but that's another issue. Many years ago I asked a > shayla about great circle routes, and was told that one should face > the direction one would actually travel in while going to Jerusalem, > rather than a great circle route. But anyone travelling from the US to Israel by air does follow a great circle route. One of the most heavilly trafficked air routes runs north up the east coast of the Americas and then south over Europe. The planes fly this way precisely because it is the shortest path between the continents. [Similar response from Danny Skaist <danny@...>. Mod.] When travelling by sea or by land, this often isn't possible due to weather or terrain, of course, but most international travel today is by air, so the air routes are "the direction one would actually travel". -- David ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: A. Seinfeld <aseinfeld@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:25:09 -0800 Subject: Re: Matzpen (Compass) Halacha lamaaseh - if the tzibur is not facing Yerushalayim, then any recognized Talmid Chacham or rav may himself turn accordingly in order that others might imitate him; And if one does not have such a visual cue to follow, we should "slightly turn our gaze" in the correct direction (forgive me for not citing the sources - my sefarim are currently in boxes - email me if you need them). By the way, I missed your earlier posting - what is the source that the orientation should be according to the azimuth? It seems the prevailing practice in NA to build the shul toward the East, even if one is in, say, Seattle, where the shortest distance to Yerushalayim would be NNE. A. Seinfld ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shlomo Pick <picksh@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:47:03 +0200 Subject: Mirror for Tefillin shalom Years ago, people who wore tefillin may have been talmidei chachamim and knew the teshuva found in the 2nd chelek (part) of the Divrei Chayim by R. Chayim Zanzer (Halberstam), no. 6 in which he states that looking into a mirror to align the tefillin is "borut" - I guess the act of an ignaramous - and goes on to demonstrate that the accepted law is that there is room on the top of the head for two pairs of tefillin and therefore they need be precisely centered. A illuminating chanuka (a lustige chanuka) (I wonder if one would say chag sameiach on yom kippur - no chagigah, it's not called chag like rosh hashana (Ps. 81,4) but it is Biblically mandated). shlomo pick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norm Broner <broner@...> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:10:12 +1100 Subject: Reference to Tefillin in the Aseret Hadibrot? A number of Mephorshim state that all the Mitzvot are contained in the Aseret Hadibrot in some way or form. I am looking for a reference to the Mitzva of Tefillin in the Aseret Hadibrot. I was wondering if anyone can point me to some sources? Menachem Broner tel: + 613 9525 9043 fax: + 613 9525 9227 Email: <broner@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Symns <msymons@...> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 00:36:41 +1100 Subject: Shabbat Hagadol Shabbat Nachamu and Shabbat Shuva are named after the first word of the Haftara, but in both cases these are really the key words of the Haftara. Wearva is hardly the key word of the Haftara that starts with that word, whereas a good case could be made that Hagadol is the key word, even though it is at the end, in fact that Pasuk is really the climax of the Haftara, and the word Hagadol encapsulates that Pasuk, so it could well be the source of the name. Mark Symons Melbourne Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eli Turkel <turkel@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:03:50 +0200 (IST) Subject: Tefillin & Mirror > << From: Bob Werman <RWERMAN@...> > I wonder if someone could enlighten me about the use of mirrors to > center tephillin shel rosh? When did this become a custom? Everyone > carrying a small mirror in his tephillin/tallit bag? I don't remember > it 25-30 years ago. When did it begin? Where? > > And where is the mitzva to center the head tephillin to the millimeter > written first? >> > > I recall as a kid (over 40 years ago) that we were taught to line up our > tephellin by "feel" -- our nose being somewhat in the center of our face > and thus serving as a reasonable guide -- you'll still see some folks > who move their open hand up their nose towards their shel rosh to align > it. Tzitz Eliezer has a responsa objecteing to the use of mirrors to adjust the tefiilin. He points out that there is a prohibition to use mirrors based on the prohibition of "lo tilbash gever simlat isha". He admits that today when mirrors are in common use that it is only a minhag chassidut for a man not to use a mirror. On the hand for tefillin it is perfectly okay to locate the tefiilin by lining it up as described above. Hence, using a mirror would only be a minhag chassidut which is cancelled by the minhag chassidut not to use a mirror. Hence, he claims that the best solution is to line it up by hand without using a mirror, which is what people did for thousands of years. Eli Turkel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Y. Askotzky <sofer@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:31:09 +0200 Subject: Tefillin Mirror and Compass If a shul does not daven towards Jerusalem/har habayis then you still daven in the direction that the shul davens unless it is opposite Jerusalem so a compass is certainly not needed. It is often difficult or not practical to build or set up a shul in order to daven in the exact direction. If one is davening outdoors and does not know in which direction is Mizrach then a compass would come in handy. The mirror is just a quick and easy way to verify the tefillin are in their proper place. To measure with ones nose (which is in the exact center of the face)/fingers or asking someone next to you is fine too. The reason why the mirror option is newer is possibly because some poskim frown upon the use of a mirror (including the Satmar Rebbi and Rav Moshe) and perhaps the mini cosmetic mirror was popularized by the advertising businesses suggesting them to sofrim to give out/sell. Others allow the use of a mirror but it should be small and should not be used to check out ones hair, pimple on the nose, etc. while checking the placement of the tefillin. Many people do not use a mirror. The mirror. etc should not be kept in the velvet bag with the tefillin but rather in the plastic bag protecting the velvet bag. kol tuv, Rabbi Yerachmiel Askotzky, certified sofer and examiner <sofer@...> www.stam.net 1-888-404-STAM(7826) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Menashe Elyashiv <elyashm@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:10:54 +0200 (IST) Subject: Women in Ha'sala In Immanuel, Israel, there are 2 women in ha'sala. Not as drivers but as 1st aid. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Menashe Elyashiv <elyashm@...> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:16:44 +0200 (IST) Subject: Wrong Way Where I pray Arvit, the place faces south, but the prayers think it is east because they are use to other places that face east. They turn north for Kabbalat Shabbat even though they see the sun setting in the west. Of course they lit the Hanukiya on the west wall which they think is south... a compass won't hurt here.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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